Wednesday, February 28, 2007

Is the cross a Pagan symbol?

Do you think we should use a Cross as a Christian symbol?

At first let me show you several different kind of crosses:

Cross (Alpha & Omega)
This Latin cross combined with the alpha and omega remind us that though Christ died on the cross for our sins, he now reigns in glory forever. Season: The Sundays after Pentecost, also Ascension Sunday and Christ the King Sunday
Cross (Anchor)
The anchor ymbolizes the Christian's hope in Christ. This cross was also the emblem of St. Clement, Bishop of Rome, who according to tradition was tied to an anchor and tossed into the sea by the emperor Trajan. Hebr. 6:17 Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged. 19 We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20 where Jesus, who went before us, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek. (NIV)
Ankh Cross
Ankh The ankh, or ansate cross, is an ancient Egyptian hieroglyph representing life and regeneration. It was adopted by Christians as a symbol of eternal life.
Cross (Byzantine)
The Byzantine cross is generally used by the Greek Orthodox Church.

The simplest and most common cross is the Latin cross, pictured at left. It may not have come into use until the 2nd or 3rd century. The empty cross, usually favored by Protestants, reminds Christians of the resurrection, while the crucifix, with Jesus on it, favored by Catholic and Orthodox churches, is a reminder of Christ's sacrifice.
The Greek cross, with arms of equal length, is the most ancient cross. This style of cross dates to ancient Babylon, where it was a symbol of the sun-god Shamash. It was also popular in pre and post Christian Celtic art.
The cross of Calvary or Graded Cross has three steps leading up to it, which can represent the hill of calvary or faith, hope, and love. Altar crosses (Graded Crosses) are common in Catholic, Anglican and Lutheran.
The Celtic cross is distinguished by the circle around the cross bar and intricate designs throughout. It is believed that he combined the symbol of Christianity, a cross, with the symbol of the sun, to give pagan followers an idea of the importance of the cross by linking it with the idea of the life-giving properties of the sun. 
The Russian Orthodox cross consists of three bars, the lowest bar low and slanted. The top bar represents the "INRI" sign placed over Jesus' head. The meaning of the slanted bar is not known for sure, but probably represents St. Andrew's cross (which looks like an X). St. Andrew is believed to have introduced Christianity to Russia. The crosses in the above right picture sit atop the domes of the Kremlin. Note that they have a slightly different lower bar.
The papal cross is the official symbol of the papacy, and may be used only by the Pope. The three bars of the cross most likely represent the three realms of the Pope's authority: the church, the world, and heaven. The Papal Cross tends to be seen more in ceremonial occasions and processions
The baptismal cross has eight points, symbolizing regeneration (see Christian Numbers). It is formed by combining the Greek cross with the Greek letter chi (X), the first letter of "Christ" in Greek.
The budded cross is a common form of the cross. Its trefoils represent the Trinity. The design is probably copied from earlier Celtic Druidry, where they represent the three dominions of earth, sky and sea.
The conqueror's or victor's cross is the Greek cross with the first and last letters of "Jesus" and "Christ" on top, and the Greek word for conquerer, nika, on the bottom. The lines over the top letters indicate that they are abbreviations.
The triumphant cross with orb represents Christ reign over the world. It is often shown atop Christ's scepter in Christian art. (This is catholic symbol and looks more paganism).
An inverted cross is the cross of St. Peter, who, according to tradition, was crucified upside down because he felt unworthy to die the same way as Christ. As Catholics believe the pope to be a successor of St. Peter, the inverted cross is frequently used in connection with the papacy, such as on the papal throne and in papal tombs. It also symbolizes humility because of the story of Peter. The inverted cross has more recently been appropriated by Satanists as a symbol meant to oppose or invert Christianity.( To me the symbol upside down cross like this, it looks more satanic symbol than Christianity symbol it self!, Catholic uses this symbol is equally mocking to God).
There are still a lot of more different kind of crosses which I do not explain all. Mostly the crosses I described above are used by Catholic denominations and a few by another Christian denomination.

If you read carefully, almost all those crosses originally are from paganism!
Except Latin Cross.

The Cross – Christian or Pagan?

What Does the Cross Symbolize?

Long before the Christian era, crosses were used by the ancient Babylonians as symbols in their worship of the fertility god Tammuz. The use of the cross spread into Egypt, India, Syria, and China. Then, centuries later, the Israelites adulterated their worship of God with acts of veneration to the false god Tammuz. Read more "The origin of the cross."
The Bible refers to this form of worship as a ‘detestable thing.’—Ezekiel 8:13, 14. 
Lets just take a look at the history of the cross and find out where its origins are.

It is believed that the cross originated from pagan worship back in Babalonian times.

Among the Chinese the cross is believed to be an ancient device, it is on the walls of their pagodas and painted on their lanterns in the most sacred rooms of their temples.

In India there are two crude crosses made out of stone which dates back before Christ. One is over 10 feet and the other is over 8 feet tall. Buddhists and many other religions in India mark the heads of their followers with the sign of the cross.

The cross was used as a religious symbol by the aborigines of South America in ancient times.
The cross was also used by the Patagonians, they tattooed it to their foreheads.

In Peru ancient pottery has been found that has crosses as religious symbols.
Assyrian kings wore crosses on chains around their necks.

Those are just a few examples of the ways the cross was and is used in pagan lands as a form of worship.

The right thing to do for Christian we can make and use cross as a symbol, not for graven image to worship and use as an idol.
The right Cross Christian symbol is LATIN CROSS.  I believe this is NOT PAGAN CROSS, and Jesus died on the cross like this.

Here is the definition of Idolatry:

*Webster's 1913 Dictionary
n. 1. The worship of idols, images, or anything which is not God; the worship of false gods.
2. Excessive attachment or veneration for anything; respect or love which borders on adoration.
Here is what the bible has to say about idolatry:

“Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.” (Acts 15:19-20)

“Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry.” (Acts 17:16)

“Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.” (1 Corinthians 10:14)
“Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? Thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?” (Romans 2:22)
“And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” (2 Corinthians 6:16-18)

“Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.” (1 John 5:21)

We were once deceived to the pagan roots of the cross, but through prayer have found the truth, and now want to share that truth with others who are being deceived.

Its what was accomplished on the cross we should be thankful for, not a graven image of the cross.

Instead of putting their faith into the cross as a piece of wood they should cherish they put their faith in what was accomplished on the cross. Which is the salvation that can be obtained through the acceptance of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.

Satan is going to pervert true christianity any way he can. he always has, and always will untill his day to be cast into the lake of fire with all his followers! What a day that will be, no more evil for eternity. And the wolf shall lay with the lamb and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock. We should look unto the new heavens and the new earth wherein will dwell rightousness.

“For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.” (1 Thessalonians 5:9-10)
My conclusion :

I believe from my dreams and visions Jesus told me Latin Cross is the best fit for Christianity symbol.  The most simple and common cross without Jesus on it. It means His work is already finished when He died on the cross and saved the human mankind, wash our sins with His blood.
Jesus was already resurrected and overcome the evilness.
The Latin cross represents Jesus died for our sins on the cross, was raised to heaven and symbolized His and Jesus follower's victory.

It's all right for the churches use this symbol and people wear crosses as their jewelry and knick-knack, and house decoration but as long as not use them as an idol and image to worship, IT'S ONLY A SYMBOL OF CHRISTIANITY.
I don't believe use the other kind of crosses symbol other than this one. (The Latin Cross).
The people who believe the cross symbol with Jesus' on it,  it means Jesus was still not resurrected yet, and it's not perfect symbol of Christianity.

I believe The Lord Jesus Christ told me, what we should do and believe.
Again, I'm not against using the cross in posting this article, the reason, as good Christian we should aware of there are many crosses symbol were originally from Pagan.
We should be careful what we believe and use for the symbol.

May Jesus Christ bless you all
Your sister in Christ

Tuesday, February 27, 2007

The difference between YHVH and Allah.

By Andre Widodo

As we know, we worship God whom is worshiped by Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In genesis 17, The Lord proclaims Himself, He is The Almighty God and He covenant with Abraham.

Gen 17:1  KJV
"And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect."

Gen 17:2  KJV
"And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.

The covenant between God and Abraham is famous with the name of Abrahamic Covenant. This is an unconditional and everlasting covenant.  This contractual agreement specifically dealing with the dimensions of the land God promised to Abraham and his descendants and "Israel's spiritual blessing and redemption."
Gen 17:7  KJV
"And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee."

Gen 17:8  KJV
"And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."

Gen 17:9  KJV
"And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations."

After that by the time under the leadership of Moses, the nation of Israel got out of Egypt from slavery, Moses asked God's name and He answered:

Exo 3:14  KJV
"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.'

I AM THAT I AM in Hebrew is : hâyâh 'ăsher hâyâh. In the Bible study KJV (King James Version) is explained :
QUOTE...This is The Name by which God wished to be known and worshiped in Israel. The Name that expressed His character as the dependable and faithful God who desires the full trust of His people...END OF QUOTE.

This is called
The Sacred Name  and says YHVH, which contains 4 Hebrew Alphabets, they are Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey. Because from 4 alphabets, that's why called Tetragrammaton.

When God gave the10 commandments to Moses at Mount Sinai, God taught him, that His Name is very sacred. He really cares how we call His Name. If God doesn't care His Name, He doesn't need to tell the third commandment in His 10 commandments.

Exo 20:7  KJV
"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."

Exodus 20:7 World English Bible
"You shall not take the name of YHVH your God in vain, for YHVH will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain."

In Strong Hebrew-Greek Dictionary is explained, the word "vain" is originnaly from the word Hebrew
shâv'  shav (read : shawv, shav), it means : in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjectively), uselessness (as deceptive, objectively; also adverbially in vain): - false (-ly), lie, lying, vain, vanity.

As to God's third commandment, let's we analyze together what the difference between YHVH and Allah, so we not violate the third commandment.
To add more info go to this site The third commandment what does it mean?

In Tanakh (Jewish Bible /Old Testament), The Name of God is writen as many as 6823 times. According to Tanakh, there are 14 different names to states YHVH, they're:

  1. YHVH
  2. Elohim
  3. El
  4. Eloah
  5. Elah
  6. Yah
  7. Adonai
  8. Hakadosh
  9. The Saviour
  10. One who redeems
  11. Messiah
  12. The spirit of Lord
  13. Different Name
  14. Esoteric Names
According to Brit Chadashah (The new Testament) there are 6 Names to state YHVH, they're:
  1. Father
  2. Son
  3. Holy Spirit
  4. Trinity
  5. Jesus is Adonai
  6. Holy Spirit is Adonai
Let's see the name of Allah. According to Al-Quran, we know there are 99 Allah's name., they're:
1 ar:الرحمن Ar-Rahman The All Beneficent, The Most Merciful in Essence 57 times
2 ar:الرحيم Ar-Rahim The Most Merciful, The Most Merciful in Actions 114 times
3 ar:الملك Al-Malik The King, The Sovereign, The True and Ultimate King 5 times
4 ar:القدوس Al-Quddus The Most Holy, The Most Pure, The Most Perfect 2 times
5 ar:السلام As-Salaam The Peace and Blessing, The Source of Peace and Safety, The Most Perfect 1 time
6 ar:المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Guarantor, The Self Affirming, The Granter of Security, The Affirmer of Truth 1 time
7 ar:المهيمن Al-Muhaymin The Guardian, The Preserver, The Overseeing Protector 1 time
8 ar:العزيز Al-Aziz The Almighty, The Self Sufficient, The Most Honorable 92 times
9 ar:الجبار Al-Jabbar The Powerful, The Irresistible, The Compeller, The Most Lofty, The Restorer/Improver of Affairs 1 time
10 ar:المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Tremendous
11 ar:الخالق Al-Khaliq The Creator
12 ar:البارئ Al-Bari' The Rightful
13 ar:المصور Al-Musawwir The Fashioner of Forms
14 ar:الغفار Al-Ghaffar The Ever Forgiving
15 ar:القهار Al-Qahhar The All Compelling Subduer
16 ar:الوهاب Al-Wahhab The Bestower
17 ar:الرزاق Ar-Razzaq The Ever Providing
18 ar:الفتاح Al-Fattah The Opener, The Victory Giver
19 ar:العليم Al-`Alim The All Knowing, The Omniscient
20 ar:القابض Al-Qabid The Restrainer, The Straightener
21 ar:الباسط Al-Basit The Expander, The Munificent
22 ar:الخافض Al-Khafid The Abaser
23 ar:الرافع Ar-Rafi‘e The Exalter
24 ar:المعز Al-Mu‘ezz The Giver of Honour
25 ar:المذل Al-Mudhell The Giver of Dishonour
26 ar:السميع As-Sami‘e The All Hearing
27 ar:البصير Al-Basir The All Seeing
28 ar:الحكم Al-Hakam The Judge, The Arbitrator
29 ar:العدل Al-`Adl The Utterly Just
30 ar:اللطيف Al-Latif The Subtly Kind
31 ar:الخبير Al-Khabir The All Aware
32 ar:الحليم Al-Halim The Forbearing, The Indulgent
33 ar:العظيم Al-Azeem The Magnificent, The Infinite
34 ar:الغفور Al-Ghafur The All Forgiving
35 ar:الشكور Ash-Shakur The Grateful
36 ar:العلي Al-Aliyy The Sublimely Exalted
37 ar:الكبير Al-Kabir The Great
38 ar:الحفيظ Al-Hafiz The Preserver
39 ar:المقيت Al-Muqit The Nourisher
40 ar:الحسيب Al-Hasib The Reckoner
41 ar:الجليل Al-Jalil The Majestic
42 ar:الكريم Al-Karim The Bountiful, The Generous
43 ar:الرقيب Ar-Raqib The Watchful
44 ar:المجيب Al-Mujib The Responsive, The Answerer
45 ar:الواسع Al-Wasse‘e The Vast, The All Encompassing
46 ar:الحكيم Al-Hakeem The Wise
47 ar:الودود Al-Wadud The Loving, The Kind One
48 ar:المجيد Al-Majid The All Glorious
49 ar:الباعث Al-Ba'ith The Raiser of The Dead
50 ar:الشهيد Ash-Shaheed The Witness
51 ar:الحق Al-Haqq The Truth, The Real
52 ar:الوكيل Al-Wakil The Trustee, The Dependable
53 ar:القوى Al-Qawaie The Strong
54 ar:المتين Al-Matin The Firm, The Steadfast
55 ar:الولى Al-Walaie The Protecting Friend, Patron and Helper
56 ar:الحميد Al-Hamid The All Praiseworthy
57 ar:المحصى Al-Muhsi The Accounter, The Numberer of All
58 ar:المبدئ Al-Mubdi' The Producer, Originator, and Initiator of All
59 ar:المعيد Al-Mu‘id The Reinstater Who Brings Back All
60 ar:المحيى Al-Muhyi The Giver of Life
61 ar:المميت Al-Mumit The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer
62 ar:الحي Al-Hayy The Ever Living
63 ar:القيوم Al-Qayyum The Self Subsisting Sustainer of All
64 ar:الواجد Al-Wajid The Perceiver, The Finder, The Unfailing
65 ar:الماجد Al-Majid The Illustrious, The Magnificent
66 ar:الواحد Al-Wahid The One, The Unique, Manifestation of Unity
67 ar:الاحد Al-Ahad The One, the All Inclusive, The Indivisible
68 ar:الصمد As-Samad The Self Sufficient, The Impregnable,
The Eternally Besought of All, The Everlasting

69 ar:القادر Al-Qadir The All Able
70 ar:المقتدر Al-Muqtadir The All Determiner, The Dominant
71 ar:المقدم Al-Muqaddim The Expediter, He Who Brings Forward
72 ar:المؤخر Al-Mu'akhir The Delayer, He Who Puts Far Away
73 ar:الأول Al-Awwal The First
74 ar:الأخر Al-Akhir The Last
75 ar:الظاهر Az-Zahir The Manifest, The All Victorious
76 ar:الباطن Al-Batin The Hidden, The All Encompassing
77 ar:الوالي Al-Wali The Patron
78 ar:المتعالي Al-Muta'ali The Self Exalted
79 ar:البر Al-Barr The Most Kind and Righteous
80 ar:التواب At-Tawwab The Ever Returning, Ever Relenting
81 ar:المنتقم Al-Muntaqim The Avenger
82 ar:العفو Al-‘Afuww The Pardoner, The Effacer of Sins
83 ar:الرؤوف Ar-Ra'uf The Compassionate, The All Pitying
84 ar:مالك الملك Malik-al-Mulk The Owner of All Sovereignty
85 ذو الجلال
و الإكرام
The Lord of Majesty and Generosity
86 ar:المقسط Al-Muqsit The Equitable, The Requiter
87 ar:الجامع Al-Jami‘e The Gatherer, The Unifier
88 ar:الغنى Al-Ghanaie The All Rich, The Independent
89 ar:المغنى Al-Mughni The Enricher, The Emancipator
90 ar:المانع Al-Mani'e The Withholder, The Shielder, the Defender
91 ar:الضار Ad-Darr The Distressor, The Harmer
This attribute can only be found in hadith 

92 ar:النافع An-Nafi‘e The Propitious, The Benefactor
93 ar:النور An-Nur The Light
94 ar:الهادي Al-Hadi The Guide
95 ar:البديع Al-Badi The Incomparable, The Originator
96 ar:الباقي Al-Baqi The Ever Enduring and Immutable
97 ar:الوارث Al-Warith The Heir, The Inheritor of All
98 ar:الرشيد Ar-Rashid The Guide, Infallible Teacher and Knower
99 ar:الصبور As-Sabur The Patient, The Timeless.

From many names of Allah, I would like to discuss  about the name number 61, it's
Allah = Al-Mumit = The Bringer of Death/The Destroyer.
My intention is to find out who is Allah in The word of God.

What it's written in the word of God:
Rev 9:11  KJV
"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

In Strong Hebrew - Greek Dictionary is informed until detail who is Abaddon or Apollyon.
Apolluōn (read : ap-ol-loo'-ohn); It means : a destroyer (that is, Satan): - Apollyon.

So we know that Allah = Al-Mumit = The Bringer of Death/The Destroyer, The Bible says The Apollyon or Satan Himself.

Is there YHVH called in the Bible as The Destroyer? Never! That's why we know YHVH is not the same as Allah.
Other than we know the word of "Allah" is from Arabic, the other one is "al-ilah".
It has been long time those words are used by Ancient Arab people, since 2500 years ago. Before the time, when The Islam was born, or is famous with the time Jahiliyah, ancient Arab people has practiced paganism, it was worshiping moon god. Tradition of Paganism worshiped moon god is originally from the land of Mesopotamia. Let's see, the land of Mesopotamia, where is started the oldest civilization in the world.

When Abraham was called by God to move out Ur Town, Abraham lived in the area and the people who practiced of worshiping Mon God. The moon god at Ur is famous with named "Sin" and the place of worshiping "Sin" is famous name "Ziggurat Temple".

Next are the remains from archaeological of "Ziggurat Temple", is the place of worshiping "Sin", moon God at Ur Town.

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On the wall ''Ziggurat Temple'', we can find the reliefs which are related to worship "Sin." This is the picture of those reliefs.

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When Abraham moved out The town of Ur, and arrived at Harran, the local people was also practiced the same custom, it was paganism of moon god. Harran town in Abraham times was famous as the town of worshiping "Sin", moon god. These are the remains from civilization of Harran.


Paganism was practiced from the land of Mesopotamia and it was spread until the land of Canaan. In 1950, the excavation of archaeological in Hazor at Palestine, has figured out successfully, one of the paganism of Canaan People. Two statues of moon god has been founded.The first statue is the shape of the man sitting down on the top of altar with the crescent moon carved on his chest. The second statue is carved likes two hands lifted up the crescent moon. This is the picture of the remains of archaeological.

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There was a Babylonian King, named Nabonidus who brought the system of worshiping moon god in the land of Arab. Take a look at remains of archaeological from King Nabonidus and the picture of crescent moon.

Nabonidus.jpg picture by andrewidodo

King Nabonidus reigned from 556 BC - 539 BC. He became King Babylon and married to the daughter of King Nebuchadnezzar, his name is Nitocris. From his wife, was born his son and named Belshazzar (Daniel 5). King Nobonidus has ever been expedited to the town of Tayma or Tema which was located on East side of Arabic Ocean, it's about 400 km distance from East Babylon.

Through King Nabonidus, worshiping moon god was introduced to Arab people. And then Arab people called him, Allah or often enough called Hu-Baal as well.

The remains that they found at Hazor, In Palestine at the year of 1950, they found as well at the area of Ancient Arab. In 1944, G Caton Thompson's book and the titled is "The Tombs and Moon Temple of Hureidah" and tells that he found the ancient temples, the remains of worshiping statues which symbolized moon god.

Next is remains of the statue of moon god in Arab Land.

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We can see, the statue of moon god in Canaan Land is not far different with the statue of moon god in Arab Land. All of them have crescent moon reliefs on the chest of the statues, they are all the same as remains of archaeological of King Nabonidus.

Arab people has practiced paganism toward moon god thousands of years ago before Muslim religion was born.
The main of worshiping moon god was centralized at the town of Mecca. In Mecca itself there are 360 gods and goddesses, whom were worshiped by Arab people.
One of the main god of Arab people is named "Allah." "Allah" is their main (special) god among with other 360 gods and goddesses. The main of worshiping "Allah" is centralized at one place and it's called "Kaabah." All has  happened in "jahiliyah" times.

Moon God, named "Allah", is quite often called "Hu-Baal." "Hu-Baal" is "The Lord on Kaabah." And "Hu-Baal" is placed on the highest level from 360 gods and goddesses at Kaabah. On other word "Hu-Baal" is "Allah" himself. Two names is one figure, and is symbolized "moon god."

When Muhammad was born, his father was the moon god idolatrous. His father, named Abd-Allah ibn Abd al-Muttalib. His mother, named Aminah bint Wahab. In Muhammad's father's name is found the word of "Allah." Indeed at that time muslim religion was not born yet. This is a proof that His father was a "Allah" worshipper, the moon god.

Practicing of paganism to "God" was done by Tribe of Quraish in "jahiliyah" times, the praying towards Mecca for many times in a day, pilgrim go to Mecca, walking around the Mecca (Tawaf), kissing the Black Stone in Kaabah, blood animal sacrificing for "Allah", throwing 7 stones at Jumrah Aqobah.

When Muhammad built Islam, he didn't change the paganism practicing of Quraish Tribe. Muhammad only covered the practice of polytheism of Quraish Tribe and nowadays was issued by Muhammad in monotheism. But figure and the main character of his worshiping is remain the same, it's for "Allah", the moon god!

That's why Muslim is identified with Moon. Please take a look the next pictures!

We notice that all has never left from central figure in idolatry, it is moon. This symbol has never been changed since 2500 years ago, when King Nabonidus was entering (reigning) Arab Land.
The next, I would like to take you to a place at Jordan and also famous with named Petra. Petra is from Greek Language, it's πέτρα. It means "stone." In Arabic it's called al-Bitrā.
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Petra was built by a tribe and the famous name is Nabateans Tribe. This tribe is including Arab Tribe who has the language and culture of Semitism, but the tribe of Nabateans worshiped the same god as Arab people.

This is an information from Wikipedia regarding Nabateans tribe.



The Nabataeans worshipped the Arab gods and goddesses of the preIslamic times as well as few of their deified kings. The most famous of these was Obodas I, who was deified after his death. Du Sharrah was the main male God accompanied by his feminine trinity; Al Uzza, Al Latt and Mena. Many statues carved in the rock depict these gods & goddesses.
So from at that time until now the Arabic God is "Allah" is spread to all over Middle east. This happened to Indonesia these days as well.
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY REGARDING OF WORSHIPING MOON GOD? The bible clearly teaching us that God against everything with paganism/ idolatry or worshiping like this.
Deuteronomy 4:19
"And Lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven (Sky) and when thou seest the sun and the moon and the stars even all the host of heaven (sky), shouldest be driven to worship them and serve them which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven."
Deuteronomy 17:3
"And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;God whom is worshiped by Israel is God over Gods (Lords). In His God's word, The Lord states that don't worship other gods other than God Himself, not worshiping other idols or making up The True God the same like the others!"Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first and I am the Last; and beside me there is no God...Is there a God beside me? Yes, there is no God, I know not any." Isaiah 44:6 &8, See Isaiah 45:5, 6, 18, 21; Isaiah 37:19, Jeremiah 2:11; compare Acts 19:26.

The other Gods are worshiped by some nations and tribes are idols. The Lord (God) of Abraham, Isaac and Israel is the only one The True God!

Psalm 96:5 KJV.
"For all the Gods of the nations are idols, but the LORD made the heavens."
The next are some of the facts of history:

  • Babel worshiped Baal.
  • Israel worshiped YHVH.
  • Egypt worshiped Ra.
  • Philistine worshiped Dagon.
  • Greece worshiped Apollo.
  • Rome worshiped Jupiter.
  • Arab worshiped Hu-Baal/ Allah.
Now, I would like to tell the other name of Satan or Lucifer. In Isaiah 14:2 says clearly.

Isa 14:12  KJV
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

According to Strong Hebrew - Greek Dictionary is informed that the word "Lucifer"  is taken from Latin word and in Hebrew is "hêylêl" (read : hay-lale'), which is means (in the sense of brightness); the morning star: - lucifer.

The word "hêylêl" in Hebrew has the same meaning like in Arab, it's "hilal" (Arabic) . It tells in Wikipedia that QUOTE... "hilal" هلال is an Arabic term, particularly associated with the crescent moon, first developed in pre- Islamic Arabia....END OF QUOTE.

In this modern times, hilal is related to Monotheistic from Allah. Worshiping Allah is always related to the moon, and through God's word (The Bible), we know  that
"hêylêl"(Hebrew) or hilal (Arabic)  is the same object. He is Lucifer or Satan himself! We also know worshiping Allah is paganism idolatry to moon god is the same as worshiping Lucifer.

If we read about the story of Gideon at Judges 8:21, we know YHVH doesn't like we worship moon god, let's pay attention on the red words below!

King James Version

8:21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise thou, and fall upon us: for as the man is, so is his strength. And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ornaments that were on their camels' necks.

American Standard Version
8:21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise thou, and fall upon us; for as the man is, so is his strength. And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took the crescents that were on their camels` necks.

Bible in Basic English
8:21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Up! Put an end to us yourself: for you have a man's strength. Then Gideon got up and put Zebah and Zalmunna to death and took the ornaments which were on their camels' necks.

Darby's English Translation
8:21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise thou, and fall on us; for as is the man, so is his strength. And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna; and he took the moons that were on their camels` necks.

Douay Rheims Bible
8:21 And Zebee and Salmana said: Do thou rise, and run upon us: because the strength of a man is according to his age: Gedeon rose up and slew Zebee and Salmana: and he took the ornaments and bosses, with which the necks of the camels of kings are wont to be adorned.

Noah Webster Bible
8:21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise thou, and fall upon us: for as the man is, so is his strength. And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ornaments that were on their camels' necks.

World English Bible
8:21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise you, and fall on us; for as the man is, so is his strength. Gideon arose, and killed Zebah and Zalmunna, and took the crescents that were on their camels` necks.

Young's Literal Translation
8:21 And Zebah saith -- also Zalmunna -- `Rise thou, and fall upon us; for as the man -- his might;` and Gideon riseth, and slayeth Zebah and Zalmunna, and taketh their round ornaments which are on the necks of their camels.
What we can get from these verses? From these we know the ornaments are the crescent moons. This is moon god worshipping, This is idolatry in worshiping the moon God and he is Satanism, worshiping Lucifer.

In this section we discuss the difference between YHVH and Allah from Their characters. From the word of God we know YHVH characters, The Lord (God) whom was worshiped by Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

YHVH is love.
Psa 25:10  KJV
"All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies."

Psa 103:8  KJV
"The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy."1Jn 4:8  KJV
"He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love (agape)."
 Is Allah love? Let's we take a look from Al-Quran
Surah 2:244
"Fight in the cause of Allah"

Surah 9:5
"Fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them"

Surah 8:12
"I will inspire terror into the hearts of unbeliever".

Is Allah love? You can answer by yourself.

*Note this is my friend, Andre Widodo's experience. He is a pilot of commercial air plane.
In this article I'd like to add my own testimony from my own (Andre, my friend) experience. I have been flew to Jeddah and returned home during 8 years, this is for Indonesian pilgrimage to Mecca. During 8 years, I  flew to Jeddah many times and I've been there, I saw every Friday , after they finsihed their Friday devotion to Allah at the mosque close to Ballad Shopping Center, there was a ceremony and for foreigner is called "Chop-chop Square".

What is the "Chop-chop Square" ?

"Chop-chop Square" is the place where in yard of Mosque, over there everyone who is guilty in Islamic Laws was punished according to the laws. If they get caught stealing, their hands or their fingers are cut off and it's more severe and cruel for the murderer. They were ready with their law executioners for every killer, an executioner was ready with his sword to cut off the killer's head.

What happen after executioner chopped off the thieves fingers and hands and cut off the killer's head? The audiences cheering and shouting, clapping when they were bleeding and blood everywhere and then they cleaned and watered it off with water hose.

How about the punishment for adulterer/ adulteress? It's the same, he/ she was stoned with rocks and stones until die. Sometimes they cut off their heads as well.

Is Allah love?
I saw by myself that YHVH and Allah are 2 different figures.

Other than that, we know Jews is "the apple of His Eye".
Zec 2:8  KJV
"For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye."
YHVH said, that Jews is "the apple of His Eye". While Allah said, that Muhammad, his prophet to kill every Jews from all over the world .
(see at  A.Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, Oxford University Press [1975], page 369).

There are many proofs YHVH and Allah are 2 different figures. Unfortunately, one of Indonesian Bible (is translated from LAI=Lembaga Alkitab Indonesia) uses the word of "Allah" for our God, this is not right and makes the sadness of our Father (God), because we don't know the name of our Father actually.
On the other hand we don't respect Allah who is worshipped by Muslim people.

Muslim believe Allah is Dzat, unreachable, unrecognized, stranger and no Son.
On the Contrary YHVH is spirit and we know HIM through His Son, Yeshua or Jesus. Whosoever knows the Son, he/ she knows The Father.

John 6:40 KJV
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."
John 14:9 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?"
Hopefully this article is very useful to get to know and care about the Holiness of the Father's name in heaven.

Sunday, February 25, 2007

Do you know Catholic is related to Islam?

Well, my motivation in writing this not to offend anyone, but to bring everyone to the true salvation in Jesus Christ.
I will not answer any angry comment in my site unless real and sincere question.
I'm sure some people never thought about that, between Catholic and Islam is related to each other! Why?

Let's see the common practices that they have:
The Roman Catholic Church and Islam have much in common:

1. Both the Roman Catholic Church and Islam believe that they are the one true church/religion.

2. The Roman Catholic Church and the Islam req
uire mandatory fasting.

3. The Roman Catholic Church worships, prays to and gives titles of God to Mary. Islam highly esteems Mary and she is mentioned 34 times in the Qu'ran.

Even the infidel Muhammed glorifies Mary in his Koran, saying, 'The angels shall say to Maryam, "Allah has chosen thee; he has made thee exempt from all stain'". The Marian (Roman Catholic) Bible

4. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam base their salvation on a complicated system of works and deny salvation by faith alone. There is no assurance of salvation in either religion.

5. Both cults deny the Biblical view of the Ato
nement. The Roman Catholic Church doctrine dictates that one must go to Purgatory to have his sins purged, Jesus just paved the way. The Muslims believe their works will save them but will not know until Judgment Day. This is because there is no atonement for sin, and God's grace does not exist.

6. The Roman Catholic Church claims visions and apparitions in an effort to add false doctrine. Muhammad claimed to be purified as a child by angels. He claimed to receive revelations from Archangel Jibril or Gabriel.

7. The Roman Catholic Church uses a rosary for their prayers, Islam uses prayer beads. The rosary/prayer beads are concepts taken from paganism.

8. The Pope is the vicar or substitute of Christ f
or the Roman Catholic Church. (# 882 RCC Catechism) In Islam, Muhammad is called the last and final Messenger of God, the successor to Jesus.

9. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam have their own divorce system. The Roman Catholic Church grants anullments and Islam allows a man t
o divorce his wife by telling her she is divorced.

10. Islam rejects the Trinity doctrine, the Deity
of Christ, salvation by grace through faith and teaches that Christians should be killed. However, the Roman Catholic Church accepts them and believes that they are offered salvation because of their faith in Abraham. (# 841 RCC Catechism)

11. Both church organizations believe that leavi
ng their church will result in eternal damnation.

12. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam share a hatred for the Jews.

13. The Roman Catholic Church and the Islam base some of their doctrine on pagan traditions. For The Roman Catholic Church the traditions of a goddess, rosary, pope, relics, purgatory, transubstantiation, praying to dead
people, and idol worship are all based on paganism. The Allah of Islam was actually a pagan god, and not even the major deity.

14. The Roman Catholic Church and Islam have added books to support false doctrine. The Roman Catholic Church has added the Apocrypha and Islam the Qu'ran.

15. The Roman Catholic Church priest system (including Popes) has a history of sexual abuse of women and children. Islam has a history of (including Muhammad) sexual abuse of women and chi

Here is interesting site "Islam and Papacy in prophecy" , they're indeed are "Antichrists", the little horn from Apostle Daniel's and John prophecies.

The Pope teaches and it is also stated in the
Catholic Catechism, that

"The Moslems are our fellow Brothers, for they also worship the one same God that we do" (Now I wouldn't doubt that these two groups worship the same false gods they both pray in vain repetition, and they both pray on beads.)

But as for the Question is a Muslim, a Brother to a Real Born-Again Christian? [The answer is] No! This is a Lie.
Let's visit this site "It's too late for Mohammed, he is burning in hell, but it's not to late you!"

The next, we can study more from this video, "The Islam Connection" by Prof Walter Veith.This topic has puzzled numerous expositors. How does Islam fit into the picture of global conflict? Is this a political, religious, or religio-political conflict? What is its origin and what are its goals? How does it impact on ecumenism and on the doctrine of salvation in Christ? Find out in this informative video. A clear line is drawn through history, showing that the reality is more startling than the theory.