Monday, December 31, 2012

Do we need the tribulation to refine and purify us? "Come up Hither" in the book of Rev, Will God protect the church in 7 yrs trib ?

Do we need the tribulation to refine and purify us?

Some people say we cannot be raptured prior to the tribulation, because we first must be refined, we must go through the coming great tribulation, in order to be worthy to be the Bride of Christ.

The comparison is also made between us and the Apostles who suffered tribulation of martyrdom, and the question is asked:  How are we, in this present age, counted worthy of not going through any refining or tribulation?  How are we, in this present age, any better then those that were there in the beginning of the Church, who were persecuted and tortured to death in tribulation?

Within such objections, there are several false assumptions.

First, these questions assume that the death of Jesus is not enough for salvation, we also need to be persecuted and endure tribulation. Thus, their whole argument is a simply denial of the gospel.  They add to the doctrine of salvation, and negate the work that Jesus did on the cross, as their argument attempts to refute Romans 10:9-10, verses on salvation.  Please note, it says nothing about having to endure tribulation as being necessary for salvation.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
I believe salvation is not conditional upon suffering tribulation.  Salvation is granted by the acceptance of the atoning sacrifice of the death of the Lord Jesus Christ, who died in our place, and by believing, and testifying about our belief.

Second, such questions assume that faithful Christians are not suffering tribulation now.   But the Bible does say that we will have tribulation in this world.
John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
2 Corinthians 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
1 Thessalonians 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Tribulations of the Church are also described in Matthew 24:
Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
However, all of these tribulations are of a different type of tribulation than the tribulation to come.  The tribulation to come, by definition, is unlike any other time and unlike any other tribulation.
 Matt 24:21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The objections assume that we will not face any tribulation that would make us worthy until the great tribulation to come, and that is wrong, because we face tribulation now, because Christians are fundamentally at odds with the world in many ways.  Therefore, since there is tribulation in the world now, there is no need for faithful Christians to suffer an additional "great tribulation" to come, that is uniquely different than the tribulations we already face.

Third, the objections assume that all Christians need the tribulation to come in order to make us somehow "worthy".  Ok, let's assume for a moment that is true.  That would create enormous theological problems!  For example, what about all the Christians who have already died, and who will never experience or face this particular great tribulation to come?  The rapture, as taught in 1 Thess 4, is clearly for the dead in Christ as well as us--it is for those who have already died prior to the tribulation to come!  Therefore, if we somehow need to be purified by the tribulation to come in order to be worthy, by what process will the dead in Christ be purified to be made worthy?  The doctrine would mean that the dead in Christ would miss out on something necessary to salvation, and that cannot be correct.

I don't doubt that God will use the coming great tribulation to test and try mankind.  That is certainly the whole point of the tribulation.  But who needs this trial?  Certainly not those who have proven themselves faithful in tribulation already.

Further on this point, the Bible clearly teaches that we do not need to face the tribulation to come to be accounted worthy.  In fact, the Bible makes the opposite point, that we may be accounted worthy so that we will not have to face the tribulation to come.
Luke 21:36  Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
In addition, Revelation 3 is quite clear regarding the contrasts between the Philadelphian and Laodician Churches.  Philadelphia is worthy, and Laodicia is not, and worthiness has nothing to do with whether or not they have already endured tribulation, it's because Philadelphia was faithful and did not deny the name of the Lord, while Laodicia was lukewarm.
To Philadelphia:

Rev 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word of patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial which is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell upon the earth.

To Laodiceans:
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
In the context, the "hour of trial" will come upon the lukewarm, and the faithful will be spared that coming "hour of trial" or tribulation.

Next, to answer the question:  "How are we, in this present age, counted worthy of not going through any refining?"

This question is answered partly in Rev 3, in the message to the Philadelphian Church, and it is also partly answered in Matt 25:1-13, which distinguishes between the wise and foolish virgins.  I also have written several webpages dealing with this topic, see the following essays numbered 40-42 on my main page:

When people begin to realize the rapture is true, these are their primary concerns:
  1. Who goes in the rapture? 10-22-00 17k
  2. Will post tribbers go up in the pretrib rapture? 2-17-01 40k
  3. Can I be saved if I'm left behind? 10-13-01 14k
Another question along these lines is, "How are we, in this present age, any better then those that were there in the beginning of the Church who suffered tribulation and martyrdom to death?"

This question also includes several false assumptions.

One false assumption is that we are more worthy than the Apostles.  But the Bible is clear that those who suffer martyrdom are especially worthy:
Hebrews 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
So it's not a question of us being better than them.  In fact, while the Apostles and other martyrs will be caught up at the time of the rapture as well, seeing as how the resurrection comes first (1 Thess 4:19-17), this means they will not miss out on anything.  And, it may well be that in heaven, the martrys may have more or better rewards than us!  They might have built foundations of gold, and we might be building foundations of silver by way of comparison.
1 Cor 3:8   Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9   For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10   According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11   For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12   Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13   Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14   If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
Another assumption in the question is that the tribulations faced by the Apostles and the tribulation to come are the same, and I have already showed that the two tribulations are different, by definition.  The one to come is simply unlike any other time.  

And the tribulations are different, the tribulations come from a different source.  The tribulations faced by the Apostles had their source in Satan, and in evil men.  The source of the tribulation to come is God.  Therefore, the very nature of the tribulations faced are completely different, and come for different reasons.

The tribulation to come is the punishment of God and exists for an unbelieving and unworthy world, the cause of which is to drive them to repentance.  We, who believe now, certainly do not need that, because we, as Christians, should have repented already!

It has often been said that none of the early Church fathers taught the rapture.  I disagree.  Clement wrote the argument I'm making, that the sources of the tribulations are different, in order to refute those who were saying that the martyrdom of the Apostles was somehow evidence that we would have to endure the tribulation to come.  Therefore, I strongly believe that Clement taught and supported the doctrine of the pretribulation rapture, and you can read my commentary on Clement's Epistle here:

By Sharon Moles

Yes, there are many verses that would become POINTLESS...IF we had to endure the judgments of the Tribulation:

Verses like those in which Jesus on the cross, says, "It is finished"--which means that THE PENALTY for our sin was PAID IN FULL when Jesus shed His blood for us.

Then there's the verses about Jesus sending of the Holy Spirit...that would be pointless, too, since it THE SPIRIT'S work to lead us into a LIFE of NEWNESS in Jesus. And as He performs that work, He brings to us into the process of sanctification, whereby, we trust in His power to walk in the ways that God ordains, as we proceed from glory to glory, being corrected and refined (as we yield to His work).

This verse is also rendered pointless: 1 John 3:2-3, where we are told-- "Beloved, NOW are we the SONS OF GOD, and it does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR, we shall be LIKE Him; for we shall see Him as He is. And EVERY man who has this HOPE in Him PURIFIES himself, even as He is pure."

And we DO this by using THE SOAP of God's Word, especially 1 John 1:9--"If we confess our sins, He is FAITHFUL and JUST to FORGIVE us our sins, and to CLEANSE us from ALL unrighteousness." Yes, ALL unrighteousness is CLEANSED as we CONFESS the sins of our flesh--and thereby those white spiritual garments (which are placed upon us through faith in Christ) are kept free of worldly, fleshly spots and grime!

The Post-Trib "idea" that we must be purified by the horrible events of the Tribulation is SO FALSE, that I want to shake every Post-Tribber who says such a thing to me!

JESUS PAID THE PRICE AT THE CROSS. And we are made WORTHY and RIGHTEOUS because of what Jesus did there. PAID IN FULL. 2 Corinthians 5:21 tells us--"For He [God] has MADE Him [Jesus] to BE SIN for us, Who knew no sin, that we might be MADE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of God in Him."

The Tribulation is JUDGMENT upon a wicked world that rejects Jesus. The Tribulation is a time when God restores and redeems His nation, Israel, who rejected Him and became blind (in part) at Jesus' first coming. The Tribulation is NOT APPOINTED unto the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5:4-11!!!

So therefore, the Tribulation is also NOT when the Church is PURIFIED.

We are made WORTHY and RIGHTEOUS through the shed blood of Jesus, and our PURIFICATION is a work of the Holy Spirit in our lives, which we experience through a process called SANCTIFICATION.

We are first JUSTIFIED (declared NOT GUILTY) through the work of Jesus' blood at the cross. Then we are SANCTIFIED by the work of the Holy Spirit on a daily basis, AS WE YIELD to the Word which He teaches. Finally, we'll be GLORIFIED as we receive the NEW BODIES that we are promised, and we get those bodies VIA the event called "the Pre-Tribulation Rapture" and it's "associated Resurrection" of those who died IN THE FAITH of Jesus through the whole age of the Church.

That is exactly what Luke 21:28 points us to: "And when these things BEGIN to come to pass [all the signs of the nearness of Jesus' return], then LOOK UP and LIFT up our heads, for our REDEMPTION draws near [the redemption of our bodies--as also seen in Romans 8:23--"to wit, the redemption of our body"].

That's why Jesus tells us via Luke 21:36--"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS [all the terrible events of the Tribulation...and IN that escape] TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN."

Why would Jesus tell us to pray to be WORTHY?? [And we ARE INDEED MADE WORTHY through accepting Jesus' sacrifice at the cross--in which "the penalty" of our sins was PAID IN FULL--and BY WHICH we believe, PRAY and receive, and ARE WORTHY in God's eyes.] So why would Jesus tell us to PRAY to be worthy if we were going to suffer the Tribulation to be cleansed. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

WHY would Jesus tell us that ESCAPE from the Tribulation events is INDEED AVAILABLE...IF we had to go through that time? THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE EITHER!

When we are TOLD to pray and be made worthy through faith in the shed blood of Jesus... And when we are PROMISED TO ESCAPE the Tribulation's judgment... Then, IF that's really NOT what happens, after all, Jesus is made into a LIAR.

QUESTION: Who is the LIAR, and THE FATHER OF LIES, in scripture?

ANSWER: Satan. So when people tell the Church that we MUST go through the Tribulation, then WHO is the LIAR? Whose voice is being heard and repeated. NOT GOD'S. NOT JESUS'! THAT'S FOR SURE...

Yes, many scriptures are RENDERED POINTLESS if the Church needed to go through the Tribulation.

Sadly, there's people who refuse to study, compare and think these things through.



IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION MENTIONED ABOUT THE RAPTURE !! REV 4:1 (Rev 5-Rev 18 never mention about the church at all during 7 yrs tribulation)
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER (THE RAPTURE), and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

Rev 19: 11-14, KJV
11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a
white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (**The resurrected and raptured saints)
IT'S THE SAME WITH THE TWO WITNESSES IN THE MIDDLE OF TRIB WILL BE RAPTURED ! THE EXPLANATION IS MORE DETAIL THERE :" And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER (RAPTURE). And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud"
Rev 11:7-12, KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies (**two witnesses bodies) shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER (RAPTURE). And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

More to study :

Come up hither !"

The RAPTURE is PRE-TRIBULATION according to the STRUCTURE in the book of Revelation!

Old testament saints, the rapture saints and tribulation saints are different/ they are not the same and 3 groups of people, that's why the rapture of the church is pre trib rapture, after old testament age is over, and then the church age (present time) and then the rapture of the church, and after that tribulation for 7 yrs ->tribulation saints !
IN THE BIBLE TELLS God will protect ISRAEL during 7 yrs tribulation, it's only mentioned 144,000 Jewish/ Israelites from 12 tribes (Rev 7), two witnesses (Rev 11), the woman in Rev 12 is ISRAEL, THEY WILL PROTECTED BY GOD !

The woman in Rev 12 :




Question: What is the biblical answer to the question of children at the
time of the rapture? Will children, of a believer, who are under the age of
accountability be raptured? Will all children?  Does ICor. 7:12-14 addresss
Answer: Thank you for this EXCELLENT question. Yes, 1Cor. 7:12-14 does
address this in part. 1 Corinthians 7:14 says,
"For the unbelieving husband is
sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband:
else were your children unclean; but now are they holy."
Your children are your inheritance. (Psalm 127:3) The Bible is not specific in
saying that children will be
raptured; however, one can come to a conclusion
based upon how God dealt with the preservation of His people from impending
judgement in the Old Testament. We read in the Bible that God is the same
yesterday, today and forever, and He changes not. (
Hebrews 13:8, Malachi 3:6)Children Over The Age of AccountabilityFor the children of believers over the age of accountability, we have a few
examples. If we take a look at Lot, God spared him and his daughters and would
have spared his wife, had she not turned around to look upon that city one more
time. Lot's wife had a free will and chose her destiny by disobeying God's word.
Lot's daughters could have refused and ran away from their father back into the
city. They had a free will and chose to believe God.

When looking at Noah, we read that he found grace in the eyes of the Lord. The
Bible does not mention his sons found grace but yet they were spared along with
their wives and Noah's wife as well because these
adults chose to believe God.
At any time while they were building the ark, the sons could have said, "Dad, we
just don't believe there is a flood coming...and we will not enter the ark with
you." But they had a free will and chose to go inside the ark, believing the word
that God had said to Noah.
So children over the age of accountability have to
be believers in Christ Jesus in order to be raptured.
For the believer's children under the age of
We, at this ministry, believe the children of all saints, who are under the age of
accountability, will be raptured. Some websites online would disagree with us but
our question to them is, who would raise their children when they are raptured?
One who would raise their child to believe in another god? One who would
encourage their child to take the mark of the beast and worship the beast? The
little children of the saints would have to suffer all the judgements and plagues
while their parents are up in heaven? We do not believe that God would allow the
children (inheritance) of the saints to be given to and raised by the ungodly. Our
children are our inheritance, not the world's.

We know as Christians that God's character is just and fair at all times. His word
says in Proverbs 20:7,
"The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are
blessed after him."
One who receives Jesus Christ as Savior has been justified in
the eyes of God because of our Lord's death and resurrection. We stand before
God just as if we have never sinned at all and it's all because of Jesus. His blood
washed our sins away.

The children (
under the age of accountability) of believers are under the
authority of their parents, who are under the authority of the Lord. God would
not take you away from your innocent child only to give your child to the
unbeliever. We believe this goes against everything that is taught in the Bible.

Passover night, in
Exodus 12, is a perfect picture of the Rapture. All the first
born inside the house, where the blood was applied on the doorposts, were
spared. If they were to have chosen to go outside and not believe God's word,
they too would have perished. So they were saved by believing.  But the children,
under the age of accountability, were spared because their parents applied the
blood upon the doorposts of the house (because the parents believed God's word).
Unbeliever's ChildrenRegarding the unbeliever's children, Bible teachers are very divided on this
subject because the Bible is not specific in this regard. There are some who
believe that the children of unbelievers will be raptured. Their position is
defended by the fact that if the children were to be left behind, they would
receive the mark of the beast at their parents' urging, thereby sealing their doom.
But we believe that just as your children are your inheritance, the children of
unbelievers are their inheritance. The unbelievers are responsible for their own

If we look at Lot again, he and his daughers were spared
but the children of the
ungodly perished and were not spared.
Noah and his family were spared but
there were none other survivors.
All people- young and old perished.Concerning Jericho, the Lord says in Joshua 6:21, "And they utterly destroyed
all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and
sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."
Pharaoh's first born and every
first born of Egypt died on the night of Passover-- young and old. So to assume
that God would take the child of an unbeliever in the Rapture is not consistent
with the rest of Scripture. Children are a gift from the Lord to the parents. The
parents' responsibility is to raise the child up in the fear of the Lord. The
unbeliever will give an account to God for the way in which they raised their
Believer's ChildrenAnother example of why a believer's children, under the age of accountability,
will be raptured is found in Exodus 9. God even made a distinction between
possessions of the Israelites and the Egyptians. Exodus 9:4 says, "And the LORD
shall sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt: and there shall
nothing die of all that is the children's of Israel." If God cared about Israel's cattle,
how much more our children?

When the children of Israel were leaving Egypt to go to the Promised Land, they
did not leave their young children behind to be raised by the ungodly Egyptians.
This would have sore displeased God. Thus, we believe that when we are
raptured, the little ones of all believers will be too.

Prov 13:22
A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children:
and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.
[By looking at this verse,
we find that
it is not the sinner who inherits the godly man's
possessions...therefore the ungodly will not be raising the offspring of the Saints.
All believers and their children, under the age of accountability, will be raptured.]

These are just a few examples of why we are a firm believers in the fact that the
children, under the age of accountability, of the believer will also be raptured.

Many evangelicals believe that all who die under the age of accountability are
taken to a separate place and allowed to grow up and witness the love of God and
also witness the ugliness of sin and thereby given the free will to choose the Lord
Jesus or reject Him. We know that ALL who will stand in heaven someday will
have all gotten there
the same way--through the blood of the Lord Jesus
Old Testament and New Testament saints alike-- all by the Blood of the

Psalm 103:17
But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting
upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
We hope this answer helps. Because the bible is silent about the specifics of
children in the rapture, we can only base our conclusion from what we have seen
in the Old Testament. Children over the age of accountability must put their trust
solely in Jesus in order to be raptured. Children of the Saints, under the age of
accountability, will be raptured. This we know 100%.
God will not leave the
little ones behind to face this evil world alone.
We believe that the children of the unbelievers will not be raptured but it is
impossible to know this 100%. We are basing our viewpoint from the past. In the
OT, we see that judgement always included the children of the ungodly. Those
children belong to the parents. No matter what will happen, we know that God is
merciful and Sovereign at the same time. He loves this world. He loves the
children. His will be done. He knows what is best so we leave it in his hands.

We know that many will come out of the Great Tribulation and will believe on
Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.Rev 7:9,13-15,  After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man
could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood
before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and
palms in their hands; ... And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he
said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have
washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. And
one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are
arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?  And I said unto him, Sir,
thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great
tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood
of the Lamb.  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him
day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell
among them.


on Apr 26, 2016
By Lisa.
Matt 24




The Bible Is The Word Of God

The Bible Is The Word Of God
The Bible is a Divine Revelation. In the Bible we find out what God wants mankind to know about Himself and His plan.
The Bible is the only written revelation of God to man.
No one has ever successfully refuted the Bible. Many mock the Bible but avoid challenging it point by point. No one who has done in-depth research, honestly examining the evidence for the Bible's inspiration and truthfulness, has been able to disprove the Bible.
History records many who set out to disprove the Bible, who instead became believers.
One Mind Behind The Bible
Our Bible is composed of 66 books, by about 40 different writers of various backgrounds, living during a period of about 1,600 years -- yet they present one message. Such a miracle can only be explained by there being one divine Author, who was in control of all these human writers.
The Bible writers came from many walks of life, including kings, peasants, philosophers, fishermen, herdsmen, poets, statesmen, scholars, soldiers, priests, prophets, a tax collector, a tentmaking rabbi, and a Gentile doctor.
The Bible was written in three different languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
The writings contained in the Bible belong to a great variety of literary types including history, law, poetry, educational discourses, parables, biography, personal correspondence, and prophecy.
Books written by men have no unity of thought on even one subject. Some of them invariably disagree with others. But there is perfect unity between the books of the Bible -- which speak of hundreds of subjects in many fields. There is no contradiction among them.
Who but God could produce such a book?
Supernatural Origin
Some of the Bible writers recorded their own sins which brought them into disgrace. Many times their lives and worldly interests were imperiled because of what they wrote. Human nature causes people to do the opposite.
The writers claim a supernatural origin for their writings. Nearly 4,000 times expressions like "Thus says the Lord," "The word of the Lord came unto me," etc., are recorded in the Bible.
If the Bible is not God's Word, then the Bible is full of lies. Could a book so filled with lies cause millions of people to turn from their sins -- including lying?
Witness Of Fulfilled Prophecies
Hundreds of prophecies of future events were recorded in the Bible -- some of them centuries before fulfillment -- and not one detail of any of them has ever failed!
No other "religious book" foretells the future.
No one can refute the Bible's accurate prediction of future events with facts. All they can do is try to get you to ignore these marvelous facts.
Could man -- especially dozens of men, writing in different countries and different times -- foretell the future so accurately? Never! Only God could do such a tremendous thing.
No one but God could reveal the future in such detail, often hundreds of years before the events occurred. Not only the future of cities, nations, and the world, but also concerning the future birth, ministry, death, and resurrection of Christ.
Prophecies Concerning Christ
The Old Testament, written over a 1,000 year period, contains several hundred references to the coming Messiah -- all of which were fulfilled exactly in Jesus Christ.
The chance that all these predictions could come true exactly as written is beyond most human's comprehension, giving to any honest enquirer undeniable proof that God inspired the writing of the prophecies in the Bible.
1 PETER 1:11 NKJ
11 . . . He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.
LUKE 24:44 NKJ
44 . . . all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me."
JOHN 5:39,46 NKJ
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
46 "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.
The story of Jesus Christ is also woven into the Old Testament through types, symbols, and ceremonies. All the Bible points to Jesus Christ.
The biography of the patriarchs, the construction of the tabernacle and the temple, the services, the sacrifices, and the ceremonies, as well as other types and shadows -- all foreshadow Jesus Christ.
Witness Of Jesus
Any honest person who studies the historical evidence will conclude that Jesus Christ rose from death -- giving Him unique status. Jesus acknowledged the Old Testament, which was all of the Bible written at that time, as the Word of God.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
The Bible bears the seal of Jesus' authority. He quoted the Old Testament dozens of times and referred to it as the Word of God.
For example, in Matthew 22:32, Jesus quotes from Exodus 3:6 and 15.
MATTHEW 22:29,31-32 NKJ
29 Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
31 "But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying,
32 `I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."
Witness Of Bible Working For People
Millions have acted on the Bible's commands and have testified to receiving its promises. Probably someone living near you has such a testimony.
That the Bible message works for people -- in all places and all times -- is a proof that the same One who created us, and all things, is the Author of the Bible. Only the manufacturer knows what to write in the product handbook to make his product function properly.
Witness Of Changed Lives
Millions of individuals, as well as nations, have been changed for the better when they have accepted the Bible as the Word of God.
More people on Earth today believe in Jesus Christ and the Bible as the Word of God than any other creed or philosophy.
These millions of people have proved the claims of the Bible when its conditions were met.
Wherever the Bible is accepted people are lifted up to a higher plane of life.
The Bible message has changed the vilest sinners into the most loving saints. No other message ever has done that.
Individuals, and even whole societies, have been transformed wherever the Bible has been believed and obeyed. The Bible's fruits have always been good and wholesome. Neglect of the Bible has always meant sin, suffering, and sorrow.
Witness of Archeology
The Bible is historically correct. No one has ever proved otherwise.
The more we learn of history, the more the Bible is validated.
Hundreds of statements in the Bible, which in times past have been held untrue by enemies of the Bible, have recently been proven true by archaeologists. The more that archaeologists find from the past, the more the Bible is proven accurate historically.
No archaeological discovery has ever disproved a biblical reference. The Bible is trustworthy and historically reliable.
Bible Is Scientifically Correct
Some scientists would not agree that the Bible is correct -- but none can prove the Bible wrong. And there are many, many scientists who acknowledge that the Bible is scientifically correct.
Man has taken many centuries to discover many things the Bible stated thousands of years ago. Where did the writers of the Bible get their information -- if not from God?
Never Out-Of-Date
Although written hundreds of years ago, the Bible remains the most up-to-date book available today.
Books on every subject have to be replaced because they become out-of-date so quickly. But the Bible has never had to be revised.
(Only translations of the Bible from the original languages have been revised to reflect current language usage.)
34 My covenant I will not break, Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.
PSALM 119:89 NKJ
89 Forever, O Lord, Your word is settled in heaven.
The Bible has been the best-selling book because it universally speaks to the heart of people, and gives them the message of God.
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The Bible is relevant to every person, in every culture, in every age, because the Bible is a living message -- which could only be authored by God.
Contrary To Human Thinking
The Bible is completely unlike a book which humans would write. The Bible condemns all mankind -- including the writers -- and teaches there is no way they can be saved except by accepting a gift -- the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Bible teaches salvation through grace and not works, self-exaltation through self-abasement, finding your life by losing your life, the way to become great is by being a servant of all -- and other things opposite to human thought. People would not have written such things contrary to their nature, on their own.
The Bible deals frankly with the sins of its characters. People making things up try to make themselves look good. The Bible tells their stories realistically, with all their shortcomings.
Highest Moral Standards
The moral standards of the Bible are the highest known to man. They are impossible for man to achieve without divine help. Man would never set such unreachable standards for himself.
44 "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
48 "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
MATTHEW 18:21-22 NKJ
21 Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?"
22 Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
Divinely Inspired
The Scriptures, both the Old and New Testaments, are verbally inspired of God and are the revelation of God to man, the infallible, authoritative rule of faith and conduct.
By the inspiration of the Scriptures we mean that "special divine influence on the minds of the writers of the Bible, in virtue of which their production, apart from errors in transcription, and when rightly interpreted, together constitute an infallible rule of faith and practice."
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
The above phrase, given by inspiration of God, translates a single Greek word. Literally the word means God-breathed. The words divinely inspired have probably the nearest English equivalent meaning.
God breathed into man what man breathed out.
2 PETER 1:20-21 NIV
20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.
21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
2 PETER 1:21 NEB
21 For it was not through any human whim that men prophesied of old; men they were, but, impelled by the Holy Spirit, they spoke the words of God.
1 God, who at various times and in different ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets.
13 . . . when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe.
Truly Recorded
Although everything in the Bible is truly recorded, everything said in the Bible is not the truth.
For example, the Bible contains statements made by the devil and those who were against God. The statements they made are not necessarily true, but they truly said the statements as recorded.
So, we can trust the Bible -- all of it -- as God's message to us.
Purpose Of Bible
The purpose of the Bible is to reveal God to mankind, and get us to come to God through Jesus Christ, so we can know Him.
JOHN 1:1,14 NKJ
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father . . . .
LUKE 24:27 NKJ
27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
JOHN 20:31 NKJ
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.
Read the Bible yourself, and ask God to reveal Himself and His will to you.

The Apocryphal Books

The Apocryphal Books
Are they lost books of the Bible?

by Cooper Abrams

The fifteen Apocryphal books which the Roman Catholics have included in their Bibles, come from a collection of about eighteen or more books written during the Inter-testamental Period. This period of four hundred years began with God giving the last book of the Old Testament which was Malachi. The Inter-testamental period ended with the coming of Christ and the writing of the New Testament. During this four hundred years God sent no prophets to Israel and was silent giving no written revelation.
         The word "apocrypha" means "of questionable authenticity." These are called non canonical books because when the canon of Scriptures (the sixty six books of the Old and New Testaments) was accepted by the early Christians they recognized that these books contained spurious material and therefore were not inspired of God. Other names for these books are "hidden" or "deuterocanonical" books. These books are also called "pseudepigraphal", meaning "false writings" to designate them as spurious and unauthentic books of the late centuries B. C. and early centuries A. D. These books contain religious folklore and have never been considered inspired of God by biblical Christians from the earliest times of churches.
         Some have referred to these books as the missing books of the Bible and conclude they are new discovers which are part of God's revelation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The sixty six books that comprise the Old and Testament are God's revelation to man and when John completed the Book of Revelation, God's word to man was complete. God has not added to His revelation since. The content of these spurious books shows them to be inspired of man...not God. It is also noteworthy that the Roman Catholic church which is a false church with false doctrines and pagan teachings accepts these books as scripture. Further, some of the cults including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Mormons, also accept them as scripture. No biblical Christians or churches have ever accept them as such. The fact is there are no lost books of the Bible.
         These books or writings from the Apocrypha that the Roman Catholic Church claims are inspired are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Letter of Jeremiah, additions to Esther, Prayer of Azariah, Susanna (Daniel 13), and Bel and the Dragon (Daniel 14). Three other Apocryphal books in the Septuagint, the Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 & 2 Esdras, are not considered to be inspired or canonical by the Roman Catholic Church. These books were not accepted by the Roman Catholic church until 1546 in the Council of Trent. Therefore for over 1300 years, since the inception of the Roman Church in the fourth Century, even they did not considered them inspired.
         Why do non-Catholic authorities reject the Apocrypha as being a part of the sixty six books of the canon?
      There are mainly four reasons: 1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms.
      2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with inspired Scripture.
      3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling out of keeping with inspired Scripture.
      4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and poetic and religious feeling.
        Why do biblical Christians and churches reject the Apocrypha as being inspired of God?:
      1. These books existed before New Testament times, yet there is not one single quotation from the Apocrypha is in the New Testament. Jesus quoted from twenty four of the Old Testament books, and the New Testament quotes from thirty four books of the Old Testament. Introductory phrases like "it is written" or "thus says the Lord" are totally absent from the books and therefore the books themselves do not claim to be inspired of God. The books of 1st and 2nd Maccabees have historical significance, but when they are compared to the Bible they shown to not be the inspired Word of God. Even though they have some historical value these books are clouded by the contradictions found in their text. For example, in 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.
      2. Although some of the early church fathers quoted from these writings, and even accepted them as inspired, this does not mean they were inspired. The majority of the early church writers rejected these books as being inspired. Clearly in the Second Century and afterward there were many false teachers and heretics. It is important to know that Jesus nor any of the Apostles quoted from or mention any of these books.
      3. Some early Greek manuscripts contain the Apocrypha, along with the Septuagint.(the Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament). The Septuagint was translated in Alexandra, Egypt which was a hot bed of heresy. From Alexandra also came the corrupted manuscripts of Alpeh, A, B upon which all modern English translations are based (the Westcott-Hort text). They including of several of these books in the LXX, (Septuagint) was the natural result of the spirit of heresy and false teaching in Egypt. However, none of these books were ever included in the Hebrew Bible and were never accepted by the Jews. Further no Greek manuscript contains the apocryphal books as does the Roman Catholic Bible. Moreover, not a single ancient manuscript contains all of the apocryphal books. Lastly, only four of the apocryphal books are found in copies of the LXX and these manuscripts date to the fourth century A.D. No copy of the Septuagint before that time has any Apocryphal books included which reflect the progression of heresy in Egypt.
      4. The Jews are the ones who canonized the Books of the Old Testament and they did not include them. They have always excluded these Apocryphal books because the material in these books is heretical and contains gross doctrinal errors. Some of these gross doctrinal errors are; prayers for the dead. ( 2 Macc. 12:45-46) and salvation by works. (Tobit 12:9). Praying for the dead is not biblical as Hebrews 9:27 plainly states, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment." There is no second chance after death. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly states that salvation is not by works or merited by man. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

               The stories in the Apocryphal books are extra biblical, fanciful and clearly pure fiction. For example the story of Bel and the Dragon is clearly a fairy tale. The tale says that a pagan priest of Bel tried to deceive Daniel by using a trap door to consume food left for the idol Bel. This pagan priest was seeking to convince Daniel that Bel was a real god who ate and drank everyday. Another fanciful tale relates that Daniel was miraculously fed by the prophet Habakkuk, who was caught up by an angel in Judea, and taken to help Daniel in the lion's den in Babylon. Daniel lived hundreds of years before this spurious book titled "Bel and the Dragon" was written.
               Another such tale is found in Tobit. Tobit, a blind father who supposedly lived in Nineveh, sends his son Tobias on a journey to collect a debt. On a journey Tobias is led by an angel in disguise named Raphael. The angel leads him to the house of a virgin who had been married seven times, but whose husbands were all slain by a demon on their wedding night. Tobias marries the girl and drives away the demon by burning the heart of a certain fish in the bedroom, with the help of Raphael. He returns home with the money and his bride, and then heals his father's eyes with the fish's gall.

               Some of the teachings in these books are colored and some are immoral. In Judith 9:10,13, it says that God, assisted Judith in the telling of lies. The Apocryphal books of Ecclesiasticus and Wisdom teach that morality is based on expedience. In other words, according to these books it is right to sin in some situations.

               The Book of Wisdom 11:17 teaches that God made the universe out of pre-existing matter instead of "ex nihilo" (out of nothing) as Genesis 1:1-2, John 1:1-3 and Hebrews 11:3 plainly state.

               There are also historical errors Tobit claimed that he was alive when the Assyrians conquered Israel in 722 B. C. and when Jeroboam revolted against Judah in 931 B. C. However it records his total life span as 158 years. These two events were actually 859 years apart. Judith also mistakenly states that Nebuchadnezzar reigned in Nineveh instead of Babylon. There are many other gross historical errors as well.
    No true Bible believing church as has ever accepted the books as canonical for these reasons. In order for a book to be considered inspired of God and included in the canon it must satisfy the follow requirements.
      1. It must have been written by a prophet of God. None of the Apocryphal books claim they were. 2. It must come with the authority of God. These spurious books are strikingly absence of the ring of authority. None of them come up to or compare in any way to the character and quality of the sixty six Books of the Bible.
      3. It must demonstrate that the power of God rests on the book. There is nothing transforming about these books.
      4. It must tell the truth about God, man, history, science, etc. The books are full of contradictions, errors and even heresies. The Apocryphal books are full of untruth.
      5. It must be accepted by biblical Christians as inspired of God. The Apocryphal books completely fail this final and fatal test.
    Why did the Catholic church accept them as canonical.
             In a nutshell, the Roman Catholic church has never had any biblical support for its teachings such as purgatory, prayers for the dead, works for salvation, etc. The events of the Reformation brought the Roman Catholic heresies into question and they had not scriptural authority for teachings. However, these false teachings are found in the Apocryphal books, so the Council of Tent in 1546, canonized them proclaiming them to be "sacred" books. This ruse gave them support for there erroneous teachings. It is always the clear mark of a cult or false church to add extra biblical revelations to the Bible in order to seek to justify their false teachings. Historically, the Roman Catholic church did not accept these books for the first 1300 years of their history. Clearly, the reason they changed their position was that during the Reformation the teachings of Catholicism came under scrutiny by people who were studying God's word, they could find no mention in the Bible of a place called Purgatory, prayers for the dead, paying of indulgences and other practices of the Roman church.
            The Apocryphal books themselves show they are not inspired of God and mostly fictional works. They have never been truly accepted by biblical Christians as part of God's word.
             The Roman Church practice of accepting of money, called "indulgences" for the payment of sins especially came under attack as being unbiblical. History shows that accepting indulgences brought a great deal of money into the coffers of the Roman Catholic Church. A Roman Catholic could actually purchase a indulgence in advance and then go out an commit his sin. It was this unbiblical practice that was one of the reasons that Martin Luther wrote his "Ninety-five Thesis" and tacked it to the door of the Wittenburg church door. His action sparked the Reformation which began in 1517 which was the also the beginning of Protestantism. There is a statement found in 2 Maccabees 12:43-45, which says "2,000 pieces of silver were sent to Jerusalem for a sin-offering...Whereupon he made reconciliation for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin." On this brief statement the Roman Catholic church has hung its teachings of Purgatory and paying for indulgences for payment of sins. However, nowhere in God's word is there found any mention of a prayer or a sin offering for the dead. Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (Hebrews 9:27. In God's word, there is no place called Purgatory or any prayers offered for dead men. When a man dies his fate is sealed. If a man is a believer, he as a child of God, goes to heaven, if he is a lost man he will go to hell. There is no second chance after death. Paul clearly states that a Christian goes immediately into the presence of God when he dies, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:8)
             The false doctrines, historical, cultural, and scientific error, which are contrary to the teachings of the sixty six books of the Bible, show the Apocryphal books are not inspired of God.
             The inclusion of the Apocrypha in the original printing of the King James Bible strictly for historical reasons. They were included like the materials in many of our modern Bibles for reference. These books were written during the Inter-testamental period between the Old and New Testaments. They contained for example the books of 1st and 2nd Maccabees which record the of rebellion of the Jews against Syria leading to Roman occupation of Israel during the time of Christ. During this 400 year period many changes occurred among the Jews such as the beginning of worship in synagogues, the rise of the sects of the Pharisees and Sadducee's, the rabbinical writings of the Talmud, etc.


Apocrypha, Deuterocanonical Books

General Information

The Apocrypha are books of the Old Testament included in Roman Catholic and Orthodox Bibles as deuterocanonical (added to the earlier canon), but excluded from the Hebrew Bible and from most Protestant Bibles. It is not certain why the term apocrypha (hidden things) was originally applied to them, but they were considered less authoritative than the other biblical books because of their relatively late origin (c. 300 BC - AD 100). Except for 2 Esdras, which was in Latin, they were part of the Septuagint. The other books placed after the Old Testament in the Revised Standard Version are the following: 1 and 2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith, Additions to the Book of Esther, Wisdom, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), Baruch and the Letter (Epistle) of Jeremiah, Additions to Daniel (Prayer of Azariah, Song of the Three Hebrew Children, History of Susanna, Bel and the Dragon), the Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 and 2 Maccabees.
Roman Catholic Bibles also list 1 and 2 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasseh as apocryphal. The Greek Orthodox Bible omits 2 Esdras but adds 3 Maccabees and Psalm 151, with 4 Maccabees as an appendix. The Apocrypha are important sources for Jewish history and religious developments in the 1st and 2d centuries BC

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How Much Time Passed From the Beginning of the Flood until Noah Came out of the Ark?

How Much Time Passed From the Beginning of the Flood until Noah Came out of the Ark?

The Chronology of the Flood

The downpour of rain and the spewing of water by the great fountains of the deep lasted for forty days, but the flood level continued to be above the highest mountain for 150 days.  Some Bible-believing scientists hold that the Flood, in the following 110 days, maintained its level as a result of the fountains of the deep continuing to flow for another 110 days.  These things are difficult to sort out and we do not make light of any legitimate attempt to come to grips with this great story and these enormous events.  Even so, chapter 8, verse 2 says that both sources of water were stopped simultaneously and that the waters receded from day 40 to day 150, at which time they had receded enough so that the Ark could come to rest in the 17th day of the seventh month, which was 150 days after it all began.

Isostasy, Tectonic Activity, and Other Strange Goings On

During this time, the ocean's bottom was sinking due to the fracturing of the earth's crust, the voids left by the escaping water and volcanic material, and the enormous weight of the huge accumulation of sediment.  This in turn was pushing up the mountains by the principle of isostasy, which means balancing off of forces, especially weight, so that there is a condition of equal pressure on all sides, or a hydrostatic equilibrium.  Another way of putting it is that when something heavy pushed down on the surface of the earth in one spot, something lighter was pushed up in another.  It can be analogized as trying to put an inflated inner-tube in a tire that is too small for it.  If you push it in at one place it will pop out at another.

The Prevailing Waters of the Flood

The water vapor canopy had all fallen and the fountains of the deep were stopped at the end of forty days.  For another 110 days the water prevailed.  The word prevailed, is the Hebrew word gabar (gaw-bar')[1] which means: to be haughty, to exalt one's self, to lift up, to mount up, to be proud, to raise up great height, to go upward.  It is true that the phrase to be haughty could mean to refuse to subside, or to stand one's ground, but the text says to the effect that they continued to cover the earth, though they were subsiding.

The Raging, Mighty Wind

After 40 days and for the duration of the 150 days and perhaps longer, God caused a great wind, not only to blow but to pass over the whole earth according to verse 1 of chapter 8.  The word for wind is ruwach (roo'-akh)[2].  It is quite versatile in what it means.  It can mean anger, a blast, or something very distabilizing.  The purpose of this wind was to cause the waters to asswage.  It is the Hebrew word shakak (shaw-kak')[3] and it carries with it the thought of hiding, or secreting, weaving over, or trapping.  It seems to say that the waters were going back into hiding, or into the earth from whence they came, and being sealed off again by the sediments or the shifting bottom.  God caused this wind to pass over the earth.  This is an interesting phrase.  The word pass is the Hebrew `abar (aw-bar')[4].  It is one of those primitive root words which has a multitude of meanings.  It means to transition over, to cover, to crisscross, to alienate, to alter, to meddle, to overrun, to make to go away, to provoke to anger, wrath, to transgress, or the way of the wayfarer.  The word for over is the Hebrew 'al (al)[5].  It is a preposition and it means over, above against, beside, between, beyond, because of, concerning, through and a host of other like expressions.  It is the word used by King David in Psalm 42:7, when he said:  “Deep calleth unto deep at the noise of thy waterspouts:  all thy waves and thy billows are gone over me.”  He used it again when he said, in Psalm 124:5.  “Then the proud waters had gone over our soul.”  In these passages the Holy Ghost used the language of the Great Deluge to dramatize the depths of Christ's suffering in hell and of the awesome fear and destruction of one being triumphed over by his enemies.

The Receding Waters of the Flood

Verse 3 says that the waters returned continually from off the earth.  The word returned is the Hebrew shuwb (shoob)[6] and it means:  to turn back, to return to the starting point, to retreat, to go home again, to refresh, to restore, to go backward, to withdraw.  The word continually is halak (haw-lak')[7] and it means to go forward, go around, go about, to depart, to return, to come, to go, backward, forward, to go too and fro, and to wander, like a nomad or a wayfarer.  In verse 7 we are told that the waters were dried up.  This is the word yabesh (yaw-bashe')[8] which means ashamed, confused, disappointing, withered away.
Together with the word wind we can very legitimately and very necessarily put together this interpretation:  God, in His anger, caused a great furious blast to rage over the whole earth for five months or more, driving the confused waters in all directions with great speed and force, thoroughly ripping apart, destroying, washing clean, and reshaping the whole face of the earth.
This whipping to and fro of this unfathomable mass of shoreless waters by the great wind caused them to either go back into the earth to be sealed off again, or to be withered, by evaporation, back up into the canopy from whence they fell.  This was a raging, turbulent, and confused sea.  It wandered aimlessly like a wayfarer, its great currents from all parts of the earth, slamming violently into land masses, and going back out again, until it lowered enough that the mud, or the soil could be seen.  
But the earth at this point had no low grounds or sprouting shrubs and plants.  It was a wasted, muddy mess.  Ten days later the lowlands, or the mud flats, were visible and plant life had started to grow.  The dove found food and nesting and did not come back.  The word for dried in verse 13 is the Hebrew charab (khaw-rab')[9] or chareb (khaw-rabe') which means: desolate, destroyed, decayed, and wasted.  It was a desolation of decay and death, which were everywhere.  This verse means only to tell us that the waters had receded off of the land, or ground.

The Earth Begins to Dry

In verse 14, which was 50 days later, the earth was dried.  Here the word is again yabesh (yaw-bashe')[10].  It was a grim, shameful, disappointing scene of destruction and confusion but the waters had withered or evaporated away so that Noah, his family, and the animals could get out of the Ark.

The Chronology of the Flood from Start to Finish

So the chronology of the Great Flood was this: 
1.  The rains fell and the fountains of the deep flowed for 40 days, at which time the great wind came and the waters began to asswage, though they continued to cover the highest mountain for another 110 days to the 150th day. 
2.  At the end of the 40 days and during the 110 days the waters began to either go back into the crust of the earth (not as much as had come out because the sinking ocean floor had diminished the size of the voids) or to be evaporated back up as a canopy (never to come anywhere near the size of the original canopy as we shall see).
3.  On the 224th day the tops of the mountains could be seen. 
4.  Forty days later, on the 10th of November, or the 10th day of the eleventh month, which was the 264th day, Noah sent out a raven and a dove through a window in the Ark.  The raven was apparently able to feed on the carrion floating on the water and to find some place to rest, presumably in the mountains or on the top of the Ark, so he never returned, but, because there was no nesting places and no vegetation for food, the dove came back. 
5.  On the 271st day Noah sent out the dove again, and it came back with the olive leaf. 
6.  7 days later he sent out the dove yet again, and it did not come back. 
7.  On the 1st day of the 601st year, Noah removed the cover from the Ark but the ground areas were too muddy and sloppy to go out onto.  He waited until the 27th day of the 2nd month of the 601st year, and then went out of the Ark, at which time the ground was dry enough to start cultivating and building on. 

How Long Was Noah in the Ark?

So how long was Noah in the Ark?  If a year was 365 days long, he was in the Ark 375 days from the 17th day of the 2nd month of the 600th year until the 27th day of the 2nd month of the 601st year.
However, some Bible scholars say that the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days in a month.  This would seem to be borne out by verse 4 of chapter 8 which says that from the 2nd month and the 17th day to the 7th month and the 17th day was exactly 150 days, though by our calendar that would be 151 days.  If that is true, the time in the Ark would be 370 days.  These are things I am not sure about, but I do know that it was from the 17th day of the year 600 until the 27th day of the year 601, or in other words, a year and 10 days.  The Ark was moving upon the waters for 150 of those days until it came to rest on Mt. Ararat. 

Sunday, December 30, 2012

THE RAPTURE, EARTHQUAKES IN CALIFORNIA, Look up the signs in heaven : The sun, the moon, and stars.

THE RAPTURE, EARTHQUAKES IN CALIFORNIA, Look up the signs in heaven : The sun, the moon, and stars.

Almost everyone making fun of the fake apocalypse and fake rapture predictions (Harold camping, Mayan end times, God feasts days Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Hanukkah etc), they year was come by and past already) they didn't even notice when the real one will come in the near future, Biblical end times, the rapture of the church, 7 yrs tribulation and then, separation the sheep from the goats.

Matt 25: 31-34, 40-41, 45-46)
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:(second coming)
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: (the event after 7 yrs tribulation is over)
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
40 And the King (**Jesus) shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand (*the goats/ unsaved ones), Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:(*The hell and then the lake of fire)
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: (*The lake of fire) but the righteous into life eternal. (*The New Jerusalem/ heaven)


Isaiah 53:6, KJV
"All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."

John 10: 14-18, KJV
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Is the rapture of the church still coming while this year in 2012 is almost over ? Sure, Jesus is still coming and remaining to warn His children/ church through dreams, visions and prophecies, while we can tell from the end time events, that we are living in end times and we can tell from the signs in heaven such as the moon, the sun and the stars, here is a few info that I got recently :

Astronomical discoveries in 2012 have reshaped what we know about the universe and pushed some instruments to the very limits of their observing power.
Scientists discovered a galaxy that harbors an enormous central black hole 17 billion times more massive than the sun. Another research group spotted a scorching-hot rocky planet in the closest star system to our own. Meanwhile, the records for most massive galaxy cluster and most distant galaxy were shattered.
Here's a brief rundown of some of the year's most extreme and exciting cosmic finds.
Most monstrous black hole
Observers probably don't want to get too close to NGC 1277 or its supermassive black hole, which takes up a large portion of the galaxy itself. The central black hole is 17 billion times more massive than the sun and makes up 14 percent of its host galaxy's mass, compared to the usual 0.1 percent.
Researchers were so flummoxed by the black hole's size that they took an extra year to double-check their calculations before publishing their results.

Closest exoplanet to Earth
In a surprise discovery, astronomers found a planet that is about the same size as Earthin the star system next door. The rocky planet was found in Alpha Centauri, a three-star system just 4.3 light years from us. [Alpha Centauri Planet and Stars Explained (Infographic)]
Life is very unlikely on this world. Its rocky surface may be molten, since the planet orbits just 3.6 million miles (6 million kilometers) from its sun-like star. (Earth, for comparison, circles 93 million miles, or 150 million km, from the sun).
Alpha Centauri Bb, as the planet is known, was discovered through tracking gravitational wobbles around its planet star. The wobbles in this case are very subtle, making the star move back and forth at no more than 1.1 mph (1.8 kph). The research team stated it "pushed our technique to the limit," and some astronomers are skeptical that the planet even exists.
And just this month, a different research team detected five potential planets orbiting the star Tau Ceti, which lies only 11.9 light-years from Earth. One of the newly spotted candidate worlds may be capable of supporting life as we know it, scientists say.
Smallest alien worlds
Astronomers using NASA's Kepler Space Telescope discovered three tiny planets 120 light-years away from Earth. Circling the star KOI-961, the smallest of the three planets is about the size of Mars, and all are smaller than Earth. Even the star itself is tiny — just 70 percent larger than Jupiter.
"This is the most compact system of planets," said John Johnson, of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. "It's like you have a shrink raygun and set it to seven times smaller and zapped a planetary system."
Smallest solar system
KOI-500 has five planets so crowded together that their gravity jostles each other profoundly during their orbits. Their "years" are only 1, 3, 4.6, 7.1 and 9.5 days long. Furthermore, the planets are tiny: just 1.3 to 2.6 times the size of Earth.
All of this action takes place in an area 150 times smaller than Earth's orbit, astronomers said.
"At this rate, you could easily pack in 10 more planets, and they would still all fit comfortably inside the Earth's orbit," Darin Ragozzine, a planetary scientist at the University of Florida at Gainesville, said in a statement.

Most distant galaxy
Much like the 100-meter dash world record, the record for farthest known galaxy often changes. The newest potential record-holderis UDFj-39546284, which had taken shape when the universe was only 380 million years old. Its extreme age was discovered in 2012 using new observations from NASA's Hubble Space Telescope.
The galaxy is part of a group of seven that astronomers examined, forming perhaps the first reliable observations of galaxies that formed 400 million and 600 million years after the Big Bang created the universe 13.7 billion years ago. [Gallery: Spectacular Hubble Photos]
Oldest, most distant supernovas
In 2012, astronomers described what they think led to the oldest, most distant supernovas in the universe. Scientists believe some of these "super-luminous" supernovas come from massive stars — 100 to 250 times the mass of the sun — that explode and blast their matter into space.
Astronomers stated that inside these massive stars, gamma-ray light changes into electron pairs as well as antimatter positrons. The gamma rays usually stop the star from collapsing due to gravity, but the grip weakens as gamma rays convert to matter. It is at this point that the star implodes, sparking the explosion.

Most massive galaxy cluster
At 2,000 times more massive than the Milky Way, a large cluster of galaxies some 7 billion light-years away dwarfs just about any other collection of matter known. Astronomers say the cluster — properly known as  SPT-CLJ2344-4243and dubbed the Phoenix cluster — appears to contain thousands of galaxies of many different sizes.
Astronomers first spotted the Phoenix cluster in 2010, but didn't realize its extent until they did follow-up observations with NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory. High-energy light pouring out of the cluster make it the most X-ray luminous one ever found, at 35 percent brighter than the last record-holder found.
Biggest map of the universe
Courtesy of a mega map, astronomers are a step closer to understanding how the universe came to be. The Sloan Digital Sky Survey III released a map that charts more than 1 million galaxies in a total volume of 70 billion cubic light-years.
The map could help astronomers better understand the mysterious dark matter and dark energy that appears to make up most of the universe, researchers said.
Deepest view of the universe
The Hubble Space Telescope is peering back further and further in time. The famous orbiting observatory captured light that emanated 13.2 billion years ago, when the universe was just 500 million years old or so.
Hubble's picture, which is called the eXtreme Deep Field, shows galaxies and starlight accumulated over 10 years in a small bit of sky; this is the best method we have to see objects so far away. The photo is a successor to Hubble's "Ultra Deep Field", which the telescope took in 2003 and 2004. [Video: Hubble's eXtreme Deep Field]

Most magnetic star
There's a star 20,000 light-years from Earth with a real magnetic personality. NGC 1624-2, which is about 35 times as massive as our sun, was spotted in the constellation Perseus. With a magnetic field 20,000 times stronger than the sun's— and 10 times more powerful than that of any known star — NGC 1624-2 drags a blanket of trapped charged particles around it.
"Magnetic fields of this strength are extremely rare; they are only known to exist in a few other stars of much lower mass," study lead author Gregg Wade, an astronomer at the Royal Military College of Canada, told in a September interview. "To find such a strong field is very lucky."
X-ray blast in the universe's youth
A jet of X-rays emanating from quasar GB 1428 — a galaxy that has a huge black hole in its center — was found about 12.4 billion light-years from Earth. The radiation band is estimated at about twice the diameter of the Milky Way.
With the previous record-holder at 12.2 billion light-years away, astronomers said they are getting more information on how black holes behaved in the universe's early days.
Biggest core found in a ginormous galaxy
Lurking in a galaxy about 10 times the width of the Milky Way lies a large, diverse galactic core that doesn't seem to have a black hole associated with it.
The wispy core of A2261-BCG, which is about 10,000 light-years across, puzzles astronomers because supermassive black holes are expected to be at the heart of most galaxies. Hubble Space Telescope observations suggest the core might have been constructed when two galaxies merged.

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First 'Alien Earth' Will Be Found in 2013, Experts Say

'Brighter than a full moon': The biggest star of 2013... could be Ison - the comet of the century

A comet discovered by two Russian astronomers will be visible from Earth next year. Get ready for a  once-in-a lifetime light show, says David Whitehouse


'Brighter than a full moon': The biggest star of 2013... could be Ison - the comet of the century

A comet discovered by two Russian astronomers will be visible from Earth next year. Get ready for a  once-in-a lifetime light show, says David Whitehouse

At the moment it is a faint object, visible only in sophisticated telescopes as a point of light moving slowly against the background stars. It doesn't seem much – a frozen chunk of rock and ice – one of many moving in the depths of space. But this one is being tracked with eager anticipation by astronomers from around the world, and in a year everyone could know its name.

Comet Ison could draw millions out into the dark to witness what could be the brightest comet seen in many generations – brighter even than the full Moon.
It was found as a blur on an electronic image of the night sky taken through a telescope at the Kislovodsk Observatory in Russia as part of a project to survey the sky looking for comets and asteroids – chunks of rock and ice that litter space. Astronomers Vitali Nevski and Artyom Novichonok were expecting to use the International Scientific Optical Network's (Ison) 40cm telescope on the night of 20 September but clouds halted their plans.
It was a frustrating night but about half an hour prior to the beginning of morning twilight, they noticed the sky was clearing and got the telescope and camera up and running to obtain some survey images in the constellations of Gemini and Cancer.
When the images were obtained Nevski loaded them into a computer program designed to detect asteroids and comets moving between images. He noticed a rather bright object with unusually slow movement, which he thought could only mean it was situated way beyond the orbit of Jupiter. But he couldn't tell if the object was a comet, so Novichonok booked time on a larger telescope to take another look. Less than a day later the new images revealed that Nevski and Novichonok had discovered a comet, which was named Comet Ison. A database search showed it has been seen in images taken by other telescopes earlier that year and in late 2011. These observations allowed its orbit to be calculated, and when astronomers did that they let out a collective "wow."
Comet Ison has taken millions of years to reach us travelling from the so-called Oort cloud – a reservoir of trillions and trillions of chunks of rock and ice, leftovers from the birth of the planets. It reaches out more than a light-year – a quarter of the way to the nearest star. In the Oort cloud the Sun is but a distant point of light whose feeble gravity is just enough to hold onto the cloud. Every once in a while a tiny tug of gravity, perhaps from a nearby star or wandering object, disturbs the cloud sending some of its comets out into interstellar space to be lost forever and a few are scattered sunward. Comet Ison is making its first, and perhaps only visit to us. Its life has been cold, frozen hard and unchanging, but it is moving closer to the Sun, and getting warmer.
Ison's surface is very dark – darker than asphalt – pockmarked and dusty with ice beneath the surface. It's a small body, a few tens of miles across, with a tiny pull of gravity. If you stood upon it you could leap 20 miles into space taking over a week to come down again, watching as the comet rotated beneath you. You could walk to the equator, kneel down and gather up handfuls of comet material to make snowballs, throw them in a direction against the comet's spin and watch them hang motionless in front of you. But it will not remain quiet on Comet Ison for the Sun's heat will bring it to life.
By the end of summer it will become visible in small telescopes and binoculars. By October it will pass close to Mars and things will begin to stir. The surface will shift as the ice responds to the thermal shock, cracks will appear in the crust, tiny puffs of gas will rise from it as it is warmed. The comet's tail is forming.
Slowly at first but with increasing vigour, as it passes the orbit of Earth, the gas and dust geysers will gather force. The space around the comet becomes brilliant as the ice below the surface turns into gas and erupts, reflecting the light of the Sun. Now Ison is surrounded by a cloud of gas called the coma, hundreds of thousands of miles from side to side. The comet's rotation curves these jets into space as they trail into spirals behind it. As they move out the gas trails are stopped and blown backwards by the Solar Wind.
By late November it will be visible to the unaided eye just after dark in the same direction as the setting Sun. Its tail could stretch like a searchlight into the sky above the horizon. Then it will swing rapidly around the Sun, passing within two million miles of it, far closer than any planet ever does, to emerge visible in the evening sky heading northward towards the pole star. It could be an "unaided eye" object for months. When it is close in its approach to the Sun it could become intensely brilliant but at that stage it would be difficult and dangerous to see without special instrumentation as it would be only a degree from the sun.
Remarkably Ison might not be the only spectacular comet visible next year. Another comet, called 2014 L4 (PanSTARRS), was discovered last year and in March and April it could also be a magnificent object in the evening sky. 2013 could be the year of the great comets.
As Comet Ison heads back to deep space in 2014 the sky above it would begin to clear as the dust and gas geysers loose their energy. Returning to the place where the Sun is a distant point of light, Comet Ison may never return. Its tail points outward now as the solar wind is at its back, and it fades and the comet falls quiet once more, this time forever.
Dr David Whitehouse is an author and astronomer

What does the Bible tell about this ?

Luk 21:25-27, KJV
25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things w
hich are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Looking at lunar tetrads 2014-2015 on God's feasts passover and Sukkoth in each year and the other stars and comet signs are most likely of the time line or the year of the rapture of the church, watch closely those years 2013-2015.

See my previous article Here about the lunar tetrads :


What did God tell me for the seasons of the rapture or the time line ?

He mentioned more than three times that the rapture of the church close to when the mega earthquakes in California occurs..

On March 22, 2012 :
Btw, this very early morning I heard God told me 'FOR THE COMING OF THE LORD" and this afternoon He told me "EARTHQUAKES IN DIVERS PLACES" and a few hours later He said "CALIFORNIA"
The Lord mentioned to me many many many times earthquakes and the word California, this is very serious folks ! And I believe JESUS RETURN TO RAPTURE HIS CHURCH WILL BE ACCOMPANIED WITH EARTHQUAKES, MEGA EARTHQUAKES IN MANY PLACES.

Several times the Holy Spirit mentioned to me about the earthquakes in California and the last time he mentioned again right on my Birthday, Oct 16:
Oct 16, 2012 :The Holy Spirit said "November" and then he said "Southern California"
Although the Holy Spirit mentioned to me "Southern California" and "November ", it does not mean the earthquakes will happen over there in November this year in 2012, it could be next year or so on... that's why many people misinterpret what the Holy Spirit/ God told them through dreams, visions and prophecies... what God talking about many things are different with what we think or our interpretation..

On Nov 7, 2012 : While I was sleeping God said “dying” and then “California”
In evening He said “Evil is going on.”

Many other people also had rapture dreams which was the season close to the earthquakes in California.

This is one of them :

If this prophecy is true, the rapture will happen after the earthquakes in California.. God told me several times already about the same prophecy :


March 13, last year : this very early morning I heard God told me 'FOR THE COMING OF THE LORD" and this afternoon He told me "EARTHQUAKES IN DIVERS PLACES" and a few hours later He said "CALIFORNIA"The Lord mentioned to me many many many times earthquakes and the word California..
March 23, 2012: Something is coming, God already warned us and told me about the earthquakes are coming up !
A few days ago :God woke me up in the morning he said "STOCK UP YOUR FOOD" and after that I heard in the afternoon, God told me "BIBLE PROPHECY" and half hour after that "REPENT YOUR SINS"
And yesterday afternoon : God told me "EARTHQUAKES"Tonight , when I was thinking there is the rapture could occur this year and remembering about this video, suddenly God told me, while I was in the kitchen, "PREDICTABLE" ..
March 27, 2012: God told me "CALIFORNIA" It means this word is still related with the word "EARTHQUAKES" that God told me several days ago, last March 23, yes the California soon will have the mega earthquakes and distruction, do not misunderstand me, I'm not condemning the states, and I do not like that happen either, but many people are fallen away from the true God -YHVH and so much sins in their hearts, that's the problem..
April 13: The Lord is about to come and take His people away... ACCEPT JESUS NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE...
Many of the prophets of the Bible have prophesied and their prophesies have not yet come to pass. Based on your understanding, WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IT WE might as well throw away the Bible because the book of Revelation, and other end time prophetic books in the Old Testament and the new testament have not yet come to pass and it was prophesied 3000-2000 years ago.
Your logic fails.I think what God told me this morning about the earthquakes in California/ West Coast soon will happen, and He also told to the other people, several of them not just me, those earthquakes are the sign that the rapture of the church is very close, including the one in JAPAN, as he mentioned that to me today.
It could be the earthquakes at the same time with the rapture of the church, or a little bit before that, or several days before that, I don't know. If those things happen on the same day with the rapture of the church, it's just what he said to me the day before yesterday "PEACE AND SECURITY" related with in 1 Thes 5:1-3, not just about the wars will break out, the natural disasters too..THE WORDS FROM GOD , "REDEMPTION" AND "TIME IS RUNNING OUT"
Luk 21:28, KJV
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Nov 7, 2012: While I was sleeping God said “dying” and then “California”In evening He said “Evil is going on.”
Oct 16 :The Holy Spirit said "November" and then he said"Southern California"  Although the Holy Spirit mentioned to me "SouthernCalifornia" and "November ", it does not mean the earthquakeswill happen over there in November this year, it could be next year or so on...that's why many people misinterpret what the Holy Spirit/ God told them throughdreams, visions and prophecies... what God talking about many things aredifferent with what we think or our interpretation..
Today on Dec 30, 2012 in the afternoon while I was in the bathroom thinking about the article that I just posted in my blog, the prophecy about the rapture links with the earthquakes in California, The Holy Spirit told me “ California, and then the rapture.”
From what I see the prophecy, dreams and visions from other people and my self , the rapture will occur after the big mega earthquakes in California, so the earthquakes over there first before the rapture, while Ruinous heap in Damascus/ Isa 17:1 will happen right after the rapture of the church or almost on the same time as a sudden destruction in 1 Thes 5:2-3 or in the same day. And the other things the rapture is around the Christmas season, HalleluYah God is God of mercy and just, his judgement is just and he will not let His children know nothing about his return to rapture His church.

The season of the rapture links with the prophecy Isaiah 17:1, Damascus Ruinous heap. 

Visit my previous article here:

The prophecy of the rapture will occur and link with Damascus Ruinous heap.

And the other ones :

The rapture links with Christmas season.

Should christian celebrate Christmas and is that the season, does it link with the rapture season ?
I hope this will help you to those who think we are still in darkness without knowing the seasons and the times when the rapture will occur, although we still don't know exactly the day and the hour, there are many proofs and confirmations, God still speaks to us, his children to be prepared for the rapture. Those dreams, visions and prophecies are from different people, times/ months/ years and Biblical proofs to confirm that..
Be ready always , do not be caught off guard with the world, instead of the things above/ the kingdom of God.

1 Thes 5, KJV
 1BUT OF THE TIMES AND THE SEASONS, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord (*7 yrs tribulation) so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;
13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
16 Rejoice evermore.
17 Pray without ceasing.
18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
19 Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
25 Brethren, pray for us.
26 Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.
27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.
28 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.


Today on Dec 30, 2012 in the afternoon while I was in the bathroom thinking about THIS ARTICLE that I just posted in my blog today, the prophecy about the rapture links with the earthquakes in California, The Holy Spirit told me “ California" and then He said "the rapture.” 

Well, from what I see the prophecy, dreams and visions from other people and my self , the rapture will occur after the big mega earthquakes in California, so the earthquakes over there first before the rapture, while Ruinous heap in Damascus/ Isa 17:1 will happen right after the rapture of the church or almost on the same time as a sudden destruction in 1 Thes 5:2-3 or  in the same day. And the other things the rapture is around the Christmas season, HalleluYah God is God of mercy and just, his judgement is just and he will not let His children know nothing about his return to rapture His church.

Just like in Noah's time, he let Noah knew the time before the flood happened, 7 days before that.

Genesis 7:4, KJV
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

And also in Lot's time before God poured out his wrath (destroyed the cities with fire and brimstone) in Sodom and Gomorrah, he sent his angels to tell Lot :

Genesis 19 :13, KJV
"For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it."

In the rapture case, God will do the same thing, and he tells those through His word (Bible prophecy), his children dreams and visions, Jewish feasts, christian feast such as christmas, the signs in the sky such as the sun, the moon and the stars, the situation in Israel and seasons...
Although we still don't know the exact day and the hour when these things happen..

God clearly tells us the signs and the season in the sky... Jesus said no one knows the DAY or HOUR... but he didn't say YEAR or MONTH.....
Don't become like a Pharisee we cannot discern of the time and the season :
Luke 12:55-56, KJV
55And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass.
56Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? 



According to her dream, that big earthquake and Tsunami in California will happen during The current secretary in California is Debra Bowen running the office, well her last term in 2015, she is a Democrat, who was first elected to the office in 2006 and re-elected in 2010. Bowen's current term will end in January 2015, after which she will be constitutionally barred from holding office by term limits.

Before becoming secretary of state, Bowen served eight years in the California State Senate from 1998 to 2006. Prior to that, she spent eight years in the California State Assembly from 1992 to 1998. Before entering politics, she practiced corporate, tax and ERISA law at the firms of Winston and Strawn and Hughes, Hubbard & Reed. Her husband is Mark Nechodom, Senior Advisor for Environmental Markets in the office of the U.S. Secretary of Agriculture.

I found many people have rapture dreams/ visions that the rapture could occur at the same time with the big earthquakes in California, so the time frames is from now till Jan 2015, take heed !

To Californians, especially in southern calif this will be devastated, if you could do that, it's better move out, and most important thing repent your sins , get right with Jesus Christ before those events come.