Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Biblical exorcism (deliverance)

Biblical exorcism (deliverance)

Anyone that is suffering from depression knows that it feels like demons torturing and running through your thoughts.
For me praying does not remove them and there are many different priest and preachers try. It gets better but temporary, the demons ca
n come back later.

What does the bible say on exorcism?
Mark 16:16-18, KJV
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Jesus cast out demons in His ministry and we are told to be his disciples. Jesus said "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and OVER ALL THE POWER OF THE ENEMY: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Luk 10:19. KJV

The Bible says to Watch Jesus Work through His people! : )
Rites and rituals like Catholic church and other denominations do have purposes behind them, some of which should NOT be ignored.
Churches that are plagued with demon activity like the Pentecostal and Charismatic churches are churches that are involved deeply with psychic experiences (unbiblical speaking in tongues, slain in the spirit, Holy laughter) and open the doors for that activity.
You need to use your common sense and be in prayer about this particular Gift. God will be faithful to direct us.

Jesus gave us authority to cast out demons.
We (Christians) do not need permission from a Bishop, pastor or anybody !
In a Christian exorcism (deliverance), the Christian is simply a facilitator. Jesus Christ is the priest and remains as the mediator b
etween the exorcee and the Evil Spirit. At no time should the minister allow himself to be confused with the mediation of Jesus Christ during a deliverance. In fact, we actually ask Jesus to be present and we request a miracle of deliverance from Him personally. I consider ego-centered mediation as a Satanic scheme to bring out the narcissism of the minister and thereby rabbit trail the exorcism.

The Lord Rebuke You!

A Christian minister will stay within the limits of his authority in Jesus Christ and simply say, 'The Lord Jesus Christ rebuke you, the Lord rebuke you,' or 'Get out' in the name of Jesus Christ by the shed blood of the Lamb of God.' This puts the battle between Jesus and the Adversary, where it safely belongs. Then, should the Evil Spirit choose to disregard the exorcist directive, he would have to take it up with Jesus Christ himself, and not the minister or lay person. I call this the "no reviling accusations" tactic.

This is Jesus talking and he is telling us how to have power over the enemy, just as he has. How is this possible? First of all, we have to understand that we have no power of our own; the only power, we possess is by and through his name and, it is the only name that demons recognize and respond to as demonstrated in this next verse and many others.

Luke 4:39-41, KJV
39 And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them.
40 Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.
41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.

Folks, as most of you are aware, the spiritual battle is increasing by the day, the demonic manifesting all around us like cancerous weeds; weeds sowing seeds of destruction, mayhem, hopelessness and depression. Now is not the time to abandon, our greatest weapon, praying in the name of Jesus. And, I would also encourage setting in your minds ahead of time, when faced with an unexpected volatile situation such as that in Boston to be ready to call on the name of Jesus in rebuke of the demons behind the human perpetrators. As the darkness darkens, the light grows brighter. I believe, therefore, we will see many miracles in Jesus name in these last dark days before his coming. Let’s be sure, we know in whose name we are praying and use it! The enemy trembles at that Holy and precious name! And, we bow in humble acceptance of the Lord’s willingness to share it with us. How blessed are we!

Grace and blessings to you all! Keep praying in the precious name and powerful name of Jesus!


Wednesday, May 8, 2013

No more prophets after God's word finish written in one Book, the Bible

No more prophets after God's word finish written in one Book, the Bible

No more prophets after God's word finish written in one Book, the Bible , but the gift of prophecy in the last days , yes.
We still have the words of the prophets, and their fulfillment, of long ago recorded for our benefit.
The bible is what I consider to be our prophet now- Jesus' life and ministry telling of God's heavenly kingdom....that has continued to this day.

A few reasons.

1. The prophets of the Bible weren't exactly on every street corner. We've got a few dozen prophets in the Bible over a couple thousand years.
2. The Holy Spirit was not as active in those days, so God's way of speaking to mankind was through the prophets. Ironically, Israel really didn't tend to listen to them any more than Christians listen to the Spirit today.
3. A major job of the prophets was concerning Israel--its blessings, and its curse for living or not living according to what God commanded. They didn't live
accordingly, they were exiled. With Christ, God used Israel to bring about Messiah to save the world. Messiah is God's message to the world--no more prophets are needed to proclaim it--but Christ's followers (Christians) are to do that

You/ they may not called to be a prophet, but you can prophesy !
There would be no more prophets in the sense of an individual saying original matters.
However, in the Bible , the Apostle Paul did say:
"And in the last days,” God says, “I shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will prophesy....."
We are in that period he called the last days.
The difference is the prophecies have already been written down in the Bible.
The sons and daughters merely repeat them and explain them.
One thing though, if someone gives a prophecy that is outside of what Jesus teaches run from it.

More info :


I am of the belief there are no new prophets. not all agree. Why? because as a Christian I also believe we have been given an "account" of all that is necessary to find salvation, from Genesis to Revelation. In addition the Bible tells us many, many times about false prophets.... and there are many of them. This is important... at least to me, because anyone claiming to be a "prophet" is false. I believe the apostle John in the Book of Revelation was the last one.

I suppose we must , in a general sense, know why we had prophets to begin with. Not trying to get theological here... but prophets speak for God... His actual words. Now we can all be "prophetic" by speaking God's word, and we ALL are prophetic, but that doesn't make us prophets. (simple explanation).

So why has He stopped? Well accepting my first promise... He has given us all we need to know... then prophets aren't necessary, so....
only those who are false prophets will claim to be prophets. The key is false prophets "usually" claim new and secret information from God.... and since I believe the cannon is closed... there are no more secrets we need to know on this earth. Now if we say "so and so" is a prophet and he/she doesn't claim such... then he's just being prophetic, repeating what has already been revealed. That doesn't mean prophets can not return, Elijah and Moses did... and Jesus returned to Paul (his conversion ) so there is wiggle room.

Why doesn't God reveal himself anymore? I absolutely believe He does.... but to often we want the Hollywood's version of revelation or some parting of the Red sea. Our best place to "see" God is the Bible. Now I know that's not what your looking for... you maybe wanting some miraculous event to give confirmation.

here's a story... of a member of the congregation saying he needs 'assurance" of his salvation
“Suppose you had a vision of an angel who told you your sins were forgiven. Would that be enough to rest on?” “Yes, I think it would. An angel should be right.” the pastor continued, “But suppose on your deathbed Satan came and said, ‘I was that angel, transformed to deceive you.’ What would you say?”

Lastly... In Revelation we are warned about the one (**The Antichrist) who will make a covenant with Israel (he will claim himself a prophet) and make peace... and then reveal his true nature... as evil.

Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether is it a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).



Whatever the case, whenever a person claims to be speaking for God (the essence of prophecy) the key is to compare what is said with what the Bible says. If God were to speak through a person today, it would be in 100% complete agreement with what God
has already said in the Bible. God does not contradict Himself. 1 John 4:1 instructs us, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 declares, “Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good.” So, whether is it a “word from the Lord” or a supposed prophecy, our response should be the same. Compare what is said to what the Word of God says. If it contradicts the Bible, throw it out. If it agrees with the Bible, pray for wisdom and discernment as to how to apply the message (2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:5).




Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Don't be friends with unbelievers or wicked ones.

Don't be friends with unbelievers or wicked ones.

Love and forgive our wicked friends or evil people  enemy is yes, but be friends with them is NO.

1 Cor 15:33, KJV
Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

2 Cor 6:14-18, KJV
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

1 Cor 5:9-13, KJV
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Question: "What does it mean to be unequally yoked?"

Answer: The phrase “unequally yoked” comes from 2 Corinthians 6:14 in the King James Version: “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrigh
teousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” The New American Standard Version is a little more forthright: “Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?”

A yoke is a wooden bar that joins two oxen to each other and to the burden they pull. An “unequally yoked” team has one stronger ox and one weaker, or one taller and one shorter. The weaker or shorter ox would walk slower than the taller, stronger one, causing the load to go around in circles. When oxen are unequally yoked, they cannot perform the task set before them. Instead of working together, they are at odds with one another.

Paul’s admonition in 2 Corinthians 6:14 is part of a larger discourse to the church at Corinth on the Christian life. He discouraged them from being in an unequal partnership with unbelievers because believers and unbelievers are opposites, just as light and darkness are opposites. They simply have nothing in common, just as Christ has nothing in common with “Belial,” a Hebrew word meaning worthlessness (v. 15). Here Paul uses it to refer to Satan. The idea is that the pagan, wicked, unbelieving world, is governed by the principles of Satan, and that Christians should be separate from that wicked world, just as Christ was separate from all the methods, purposes, and plans of Satan. He had no participation in them, He formed no union with them, and so it should be with the followers of the one in relation to the followers of the other. Attempting to live a Christian life with a non-Christian for our close friend and ally will only cause us go around in circles.

The “unequal yoke” is often applied to business relationships. For a Christian to enter into a partnership with an unbeliever is to court disaster. They have opposite worldviews and morals, and business decisions that must be made daily will reflect one or the other. For the relationship to work, one or the other must abandon his moral center and move toward that of the other. More often than not, it is the believer who finds himself pressured to leave his Christian principles behind for the sake of profit and the growth of the business.

Of course, the closest alliance one person can have with another is found in marriage, and this is how the passage is usually interpreted. God’s plan is for a man and a woman to become “one flesh” (Genesis 2:24), a relationship so intimate that one literally and figuratively becomes part of the other. Uniting a believer with an unbeliever is essentially uniting opposites, which makes for a very difficult relationship.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/unequally-yoked.html#ixzz2STi7d2rX



2 COR 6:14 TO 18.
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

18) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
PROV 24:1.
Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them.
EPH 5:11.
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
PROV 1:10.
My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
JAMES 4:4.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.



What is Biblical Of Slain in the Spirit ?

What is Biblical Of Slain in the Spirit ?
Most modern non Biblical style of slain in the spirit today , majority of them falling backward plus with jerk moving, LOL.. instead of falling to the ground/ fall upon their faces to worship God.

Biblical slain in the Spirit : None of them falling ba
ckward, dancing or weird moving even like animal behavior, laughing and carry on like most non Biblical slain in the Spirit today , beware of those things happen because of the devil or just phony/ counterfeit ones !

Genesis 17:3, KJV
And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
Joshua 15:14, KJV
And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?
Numbers 22:31, KJV
Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.
Judges 13:20, KJV
For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the Lord ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground.
Eze 1:28, KJV
As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
Daniel 8:17-18, KJV
17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.
Daniel 10:7-9, KJV
7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.
9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.
Matt 17: 5-6, KJV
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.

What is Biblical Of Slain in The Spirit ?
Instances of voluntarily falling before the Lord to worship or pray may be found in Genesis 17:3 and Joshua 5:14. References to voluntarily falling as the result of feeling overwhelmed by a divine presence are found in Numbers 22:31, Judges 13:20, Ezekiel 1:28, Ezekiel 3:23, Ezekiel 43:3, Ezekiel 44:4, Daniel 8:17 and Matthew 17:6. However, these verses seem to imply falling forward in humility, and it would seem there are no verses to imply falling upon being touched by someone even pastor like most pentecostal, charismatic, assembly of God church and other churches today do..

Instances of involuntarily falling before the Lord as the result of feeling overwhelmed by a divine presence are found in 1 Kings 8:10-11, Daniel 8:27, Daniel 10:8-11 (possibly implied), Acts 9:3-4, Acts 26:14 and Revelation 1:17.

There is one passage in the Bible where people "fall to the ground" just by hearing the words "I am He". That is when Judas has betrayed Jesus and the soldiers come to get Jesus.

—John 18:4-6, KJV
4 Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?
5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.


Question: "Is being slain in the Spirit biblical?"

Answer: Most commonly, being “slain in the Spirit” happens when a minister lays hands on someone, and that person collapses to the floor, supposedly overcome by the power of the Holy Spirit. Those who practice slaying in the Spirit use Bible passages that talk about people becoming “as dead” (Revelation 1:17) or of falling upon their face (Ezekiel 1:28; Daniel 8:17-18, 10:7-9). However, there are a number of contrasts between this biblical falling on one's face and the practice of being slain in the Spirit.

1. The biblical falling down was a person's reaction to what he saw in a vision or an event beyond ordinary happenings, such as at the transfiguration of Christ (Matthew 17:6). In the unbiblical practice of being slain in the Spirit, the person responds to another’s touch or to the motion of the speaker's arm.

2. The biblical instances were few and far between, and they occurred only rarely in the lives of a few people. In the slain in the Spirit phenomenon, falling down is a repeated event and an experience that happens to many.

3. In the biblical instances, the people fall upon their face in awe at either what or whom they see. In the slain in the Spirit counterfeit, they fall backwards, either in response to the wave of the speaker's arm or as a result of a church leader's touch (or push in some cases).

We are not claiming that all examples of being slain in the Spirit are fakes or responses to a touch or push. Many people claim to experience an energy or a force that causes them to fall back. However, we find no biblical basis for this concept. Yes, there may be some energy or force involved, but if so, it is very likely not of God and not the result of the working of the Holy Spirit.

It is unfortunate that people look to such bizarre counterfeits that produce no spiritual fruit, rather than pursuing the practical fruit which the Spirit gives us for the purpose of glorifying Christ with our lives (Galatians 5:22-23). Being filled with the Spirit is not evidenced by such counterfeits, but by a life that overflows with the Word of God in such a way that it spills over in praise, thanksgiving, and obedience to God

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Spirit-slain.html#ixzz2SdP7yOfz


Do we find evidence that people "fell" when prophets, apostles or Jesus of Nazareth laid hands on them? No. Matthew 19:13-15 records an incident where Jesus prayed for a group of children. Do the Scriptures say, "He laid hands on them and the children fell at his feet"? No. Jesus put his hands on the children, prayed, and went away. John chapter twenty records that Jesus breathed on his disciples, blessed them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit." Did they fall? Not according to the scriptural account. Do we find evidence that people ever "fell" in the presence of Jesus? Yes. However, not one incident is linked with the laying on of hands.


Just because signs and wonders, including the "slain in the spirit" phenomenon, occur "in the church," that does not mean that Jesus is the power behind them. There is little doubt to the discerning that many Christians today are being exposed to seducing spirits and Christianized New Age philosophies on an unprecedented scale. Whether much "slain" activity occurs because of lack of knowledge, fakery, hypnotic suggestion or evil spirits, Biblical precedent for "falling behavior" does exist. However, the genuine "slain in the Spirit" experience, as portrayed in Scripture, often differs radically from the "falling behavior" associated with past and present religious services. Christians must test the spirits and observe both the fruit of the spiritual leader and his ministry. Members of the body must always remember to seek Jesus Christ himself, not his signs or gifts. Following after people whose ministries display great supernatural power, whether they are genuine servants of God or servants of evil spirits, can lead to spiritual shipwreck.

While some Christians will refuse to test the spirits as commanded in I John 4:1, others will jump aboard the bandwagon which emphatically denies that Jesus works today, at all, in signs, wonders and spiritual gifts - especially when it comes to tongues or a prophetical word of knowledge. Both extremes are bad. We must remember that Jesus was not addressing New Age devotees when he spoke the famous words of Matthew 7:22, "Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? And in your name have cast out devils? And in your name have done wonderful works?' And then I will profess unto them, 'I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."'


Friday, May 3, 2013

Does God the Father Have a “Body of Flesh and Bone”?

Does God the Father Have a “Body of Flesh and Bone”?
By Rich Deem

Mormons claim that God the Father has a “body of flesh and bones.”
Nowhere is this statement
made in the Bible, so they support this idea through the statement that God created man in His
own image,
which requires that God look like a man. However, there are many problems with
this interpretation. First, the Bible says that God created
males and females in His image.
Unless God were a hermaphrodite (having both male and female sexual organs), this phrase
could not refer to purely physical characteristics. In ad
dition, the New Testament tells us directly
that God, in His glory, does
look like a man:
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Romans 1:23
The Bible indicates that God the Father does not have a body - that God is a Spirit. However, the
Bible says that God takes on the
of a man when He comes to earth.
“God is Spirit”... Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ stated quite clearly that God the Father is a Spirit:
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in t
John 4:24
Does this leave the option that God as a spirit could also have a “bo dy of flesh and bones?” Here
is how Jesus defined a spirit:
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit
hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. (
Luke 24:39
Therefore, Jesus left us no option to believe that God, in His Glory, exists merely as a body
consisting of flesh and bones. Elsewhere in the Bible are statements indicating that God is
invisible, although humans are obviously visible:
...Christ... Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Colossians 1:15
The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; (
Doctrine & Covenants: Section
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the
sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that
creepeth upon the earth. (
Genesis 1:26
Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. (
Genesis 9:6
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:27
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath
showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the
world are clearly seen... (
Romans 1:19-20
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and
glory for ever and ever. Amen. (
1 Timothy 1:17
...who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach
unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power
everlasting. Amen. (
1 Timothy 6:15-16
By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as
seeing him who is invisible . (
Hebrews 11:27
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom
of the Father, he hath declared him. (
John 1:18
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the
Father. (
John 6:46
It is true that Jesus, who is God the Son, came to earth in a human body. However, the Bible
makes it clear that Jesus took on the
of a human, but did not exist as such from eternity:
...Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal
with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a
servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a
man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the
cross. (
Philippians 2:5-8
Therefore, the Bible claims that Jesus existed in the “form of God” (i.e., a S
pirit), but took on the
form of a human male in order to come to earth and commune with His people.
If God had a body...
There are several logical flaws to the idea that God has a body of flesh and bone. The nature of
the universe makes the idea of a human-looking God virtually impossible. Science tells us that
the universe originally existed as nine tightly curled dimension of space. The implications for the
nature of God are obvious. God, who created the universe, must exist in
at least
one extra
dimension above that of the universe in order to have created it. A three dimensional being
cannot create a nine dimensional universe and have any ability to control it. This means that
God, must consist of at least 10 dimensions, and could not exist solely in a three dimensional
form (e.g., a human-like body). As Philippians 2 tells us (above), God must empty Himself of
His glory in order to interact with unglorifed humans. There are other obvious logical problems.
If God has a human form, how can He, as a 6 foot high body, control the universe. He would be
totally dwarfed by the immensity of the universe, being at least 10
times smaller than His own

The Bible indicates that God the Father exists in some glorious state in heaven as a spiritual
being. His glorified state is invisible to us, although He can change forms and take on the form of
a man to interact directly with humans. Logically, it makes no sense that God would exist as a
three dimensional 6 foot tall being in a universe 10 billion light years across.

There is only one throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2). Who sits upon it?

We know Jesus does (Revelation 1:8,18, 4:8). Where do the Father and the Holy Spirit sit?
In the book of Revelation John shows us the scene of one throne and one sitting on the throne.
Revelation 4:2
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

The book of Revelation tells us that Jesus is the Alpha, Omega, beginning, ending, Almighty, etc.

Revelation 1:7-8
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:17-18
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Revelation 4:8
8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

In Revelation 21, the one sitting on the throne is called Alpha, Omega, beginning, ending, and God.

Revelation 21:5-7
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

We see in the first chapter of Revelation that Jesus is the Alpha, Omega, beginning, ending, one which was, which is, and which is to come, Almighty, the first, and the last. The one sitting on the one throne in heave is making these same claims, using the same descriptive terms. The one sitting on the one throne is Jesus.

How can Jesus be sitting on the throne if he is the lamb standing before the throne? The lamb slain standing before the throne is a popular argument that is often used to show that Jesus is not the one sitting on the throne.

Revelation 5:6-7
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

If this verse is to be taken literally, then Jesus is separate from God, and he is an actual slain lamb in heaven. This verse is actually symbolic of the atonement, showing that Jesus was slain for our sins. Jesus was only slain in his humanity. It doesn’t mean that Jesus wasn’t God, or that he was separate from the one of the throne. Verse 6 shows that the lamb actually came from the midst of the throne.

We see this again in Revelation 7:17:

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

The one sitting on the throne is the lamb. Our Father became our redeemer.

Isaiah 63:16
16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.

2 Corinthians 5:19
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

The throne is called the throne of God and of the lamb.

Revelation 22:3
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

Notice the singular pronouns. This continues in the next verse.

Revelation 22:4
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

These verses refer to God and the lamb as ‘he’. Jesus is God manifest in flesh.

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Jesus is God and the lamb.

In heaven, we will see one sitting on the throne- Jesus. In Jesus we will see all the fullness of the Godhead.

Colossians 2:9
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

When we see Jesus we will see the Father.

John 14:9
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Can't be any plainer!

In Christ,
James - Apostolic minister




Jesus is the son of God, He is the visible God, and was in human form, yes we can including He is God Himself, the spirit, BUT IN ORDER WE CAN SEE GOD , HE (GOD THE FATHER) IS IN JESUS HIMSELF, HE IS SON OF GOD !

Col 1:14-15, KJV
14 In whom we have re
demption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature

John 1:1-18, KJV
1 In the beginning was the Word (**Jesus Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He (**Jesus Christ) was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (**Jesus Christ), (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.


Biblical proofs GOD IS ONE (ECHAD), NOT THREE GODS !
"Hear, O Israel! YHWH is our God, YHWH is one [Echad]!" Deuteronomy 6:4
"'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me." Isaiah 44:6
"Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any
other Rock? I know of none." Isaiah 44:8
"I am YHWH, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5

"But to us there is but ONE GOD, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST, by whom are all things, and we by him." 1 Cor 8:6, KJV

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