GOG AND MAGOG WARS IN EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 BEFORE THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH AND DURING 7 YRS TRIBULATION-THE DAY OF THE LORD, IT'S MENTIONED EAST EUROPE, THE MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES AND AFRICA IN THE BIBLE.
EZE 38:1-9, KJV
1 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 GORMER and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
Who is Gog in Eze 38 and 39 and the one in Rev 20 :7 ?
An In Depth Look at the Modern Equivalent to Biblical Names in Ezek. 38
A Bible Study by Jack Kelley
Many of the nations we hear about in today's news existed in ancient times but under different names. By using the ancient names for the countries He prophesied about, the Lord made possible the use of scripture to interpret scripture. Much of the information below can be gained by referencing Genesis 10, the so-called Table of Nations, in a good study Bible. Learning the modern names of the nations whose founding families are listed there really helps connect Bible prophecy to current events.
I believe that Gog is a supernatural being (showing up in the battle of Ezekiel 38 and the final battle at the end of the Millennium) perhaps Satan's counter part to Michael the Arkangel. There is an obscure reference in the Septuagint translation of the Book of Amos in 7:1 to a Gog, King of the Locusts, for what that's worth. You won't find any hint of this in translations rendered into English from Hebrew. You can only get there from the Greek (Septuagint) translation. But with no connection to any physical territory or people as there is with Magog and the others named in Ezekiel 38, and with Biblical appearances so far apart in time, there's good reason to believe that Gog is a non-human character, one of Satan's own.
In contrast, there are over 130 historical references tying Magog to the ancient Scythians (they defeated Saul at the battle of Beth Shean and nailed his body to the gate of the city). The Great Wall of China was known as the "Ramparts of Magog" in ancient times and was built to protect China from Magog. Some see a striking similarity between what's known about the Scythians and the Mongol Hordes of Genghis Kahn. Magog was a son of Japeth and inhabited central Asia. His children, the Scythians, are the ancestors of today's Russian people.
Meshech and Tubal
These two were brothers of Magog and are linked to the same general area, but more likely with the Turkic people. Josephus associated Meshech with Cappodocia, home of the ancient Hittite Empire in Eastern Turkey.
This one's easier because the name changed to Iran in our memory.
((**Iran is the homeland of ethnic-Persians. Persians (including Persian sub-groups) and Persian-speakers (other ethnic groups that have adopted Persian language) can also be found in Tajikstan, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Iraq, Georgia, Turkey, Armenia, Oman, the Caucasus, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan. Like the Persians of Iran (Western Persians), the Tajiks (Eastern Persians) are descendants of various Iranian peoples, including Persians from Iran, as well as numerous invaders. Tajiks and Farsiwan have a particular affinity with Persians in neighboring Khorasan due to historical interaction some stemming from the Islamic period. Scholars also include Iranian language speakers such as Lurs, Talysh, Gilak, Mazandaranis and speakers of Central Iranian languages in Iran under the term Persian. Specifically, the Lurs speak an Archaic Persian language. In addition, the Hazara and Aimaq of Afghanistan are Persian-speaking communities of mixed Mongol, Turkic and Tajik origins.
Other smaller ethnic groups of Persians includes the Lari people of Larestan (who are mostly Sunni Muslims) and the Qizilbash of Afghanistan who are related to the Farsiwan and Azerbaijanis. In the Caucasus, the Tats are concentrated in Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Russian Dagestan and their origins are traced to Sassanid merchants who settled in the region. In the Indian subcontinent the Parsis are a distinct ethno-religious community that are descended from Persian (largely Khorasani) Zoroastrians. They are a Zoroastrian sect settled mainly in western India, centered around Gujarat and Mumbai. The Iranis, another small community in India, are descended from more recent Persian Zoroastrian immigrants.))
Cush and Put
These two were sons of Ham and brothers to Mizraim (which means "two Egypts") and Canaan. Narrowly they are called Ethiopia (Cush) and Lybia (Put) but both were in possession of much larger territory in the past. The word Cush has a Hebrew root meaning black, and can be representative of the black races of Africa, while Put can represent the north part of the continent; Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Mauritania, etc. Note that all are sons of Ham and therefore not Semitic. The common denominator among African nations is religion (Islam) not race (Arab).
Another son of Japeth and brother to Magog, Gomer inhabited the Rhine and Danube valleys, and can be associated with Eastern Europe of today.
***EASTERN EUROPE :
What the Experts Say
((The UN defines Eastern Europe as consisting of the following 10 countries: Belarus, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, and the Ukraine.
The CIA, on the other hand, says Austria, the Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia are located in Central Europe, while Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, the Ukraine and Georgia are considered Eastern European, and Albania, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Romania and Serbia are classified as Southeastern European.))
The people of the fourth nation, Gomer, were also known as the Cimmerians. They originally lived north of the Caucasus Mountains in the southern part of what is modern Russia. In Ezekiel’s time, they had settled in what is now central Turkey.
Beth means house in Hebrew. Togarmah was a son of Gomer. The Armenians of today call themselves the House of Togarmah. The Turks (but not the Kurds, who are the ancient Medes of Media-Persia fame) are also included.
**The people of the fifth nation, Togarmah, were identified by Josephus as the Phrygians (Antiquities, I. 6, 1 ), who settled in Cappadocia, now eastern Turkey.
Considering the location of the fourth and fifth nations in Turkey, it should be noted that the present secular government of Turkey is being threatened by Islamic fundamentalists. As a result, some leaders fear that Turkey could become another Iran. If that happens, all the nations named in Ezekiel 38:5-6 will be characterized by a militant Islamic hatred of Israel.
Sheba and Dedan
These two are first mentioned as grandsons of Cush in Genesis 10:7. Later, in Genesis 25:3, we read of two grandsons of Abraham's named Sheba and Dedan as well, born to Jokshan, a son of Abraham and his 2nd wife, Keturah. It's not clear which pair of grandsons is being referenced, but commentaries none-the-less identify these two as probably representing the nations of the Arabian Penninsula, notably Saudi Arabia.
According to archaeologists W. F. Albright and Wendell Phillips, Sheba was on the southwestern edge of the Arabian Peninsula across the Red Sea from present-day Ethiopia. The Queen of Sheba visited Israel in the time of Solomon. Sheba is also known in history as Saba. The Sabeans conducted trade in spices with the other peoples of the ancient world.
Dedan was probably the habitat of the Arabs on the northern part of the Arabian Desert, which is modern-day Saudi Arabia. The ancient capital of Saudi Arabia is still called Dedan on many maps today.
Tarshish was a son of Javan, who settled the area of Southern Greece. There are three schools of thought where Tarshish is concerned. One view locates Tarshish to the East, accessible from Solomon's great seaport at Ezion Geber on the Red Sea. Since Javan and his family traveled north and west from Babel at the confusion of tongues, it seems unlikely. Large sea going vessels were often nicknamed "Ships of Tarshish" and more likely this is how Tarshish came to be linked with Ezion Geber, since both Solomon and Hezekiah built such vessels there. Others see this as a reference to ancient Tartessus, a seaport in southern Spain, near Gibraltar. Still others recall the sea going navies of the Phoenicians, who operated Ships of Tarshish out of nearby Cadiz and sailed as far north as England for tin, a metal used in the making of bronze and other alloys, which they mined in Cornwall. Some believe that the name Britannia is actually derived from a Phoenician word meaning "source of tin." If so, since the ships of Tarshish brought tin to the ancient world, this reference could be to Great Britain making the "lions" (KJV) or "villages"(NIV) of Tarshish Great Britain's colonies, of which the US is most prominent today. The fact that the lion is a symbol of the British Empire lends support to this view.
Again, it's instructive to view the common motivator as religion, not race. Some years ago, an editorial in the Jerusalem Post outlined the "Arab" plan as being composed of two phases. Phase one was to gain as much as possible through the inexpensive negotiating process while simultaneously weakening Israel and strengthening the Moslem coalition. Phase two, after no more negotiated gain can be made, is to go to war for the rest.
Ezekiel 38-39 foretells a massive future invasion of Israel by the armed forces of six nations. Five of those nations are identified in Ezekiel 38:5-6 with the names they bore in Ezekiel’s time.
The first nation, Persia, is now the modern state of Iran. It is currently ruled by an Islamic fundamentalist government that is building significant military power, including the development of nuclear weapons. It has openly declared its commitment to the annihilation of the Jewish state of Israel.
The second nation, Ethiopia, was not the same as modern Ethiopia. Instead, it occupied the area later known as Nubia. Today it is known as Sudan and is dominated by an Islamic fundamentalist government that is using brutal means, including crucifixion of Christians, to attempt to establish a pure, Islamic state.
The third nation, Libya, the western neighbor of Egypt, is also an Islamic nation today. It is strongly anti-West and anti-Israel, and Western intelligence has been informed that Libya has hired Eastern European and former Soviet military scientists to aid its development of military power.
The Leader’s Name
The leader will be “Gog, of the land of Magog” (see Ezek. 38:2). Jerome, a prominent church leader (345-420 A.D.), declared that Magog was located north of the Caucasus Mountains, near the Caspian Sea. Josephus (Antiquities, I. 6, 1 ) and Greek writers associated the name “ Magog ” with the Scythians. According to the revised International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, the major group of Scythians lived near the Black Sea “from the Caucasus around to the Danube.” It appears, then, that the land of Magog was located near the Black and Caspian Seas north of the Caucasus Mountains, in the southern part of 20th-century Russia.
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THIS PROPHECY IN EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 WARS ARE BEFORE 7 YRS GOD'S WRATH/ THE DAY OF THE LORD/ GREAT TRIBULATION STARTS OR BEFORE THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH, BECAUSE IT SAYS IN
9 "And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:" ((THEY WILL BURN THE WEAPON FOR 7 YRS JUST EXACTLY DURING THE TIME OF 7 YRS THE DAY OF THE LORD/ GOD'S WRATH.))
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
12 AND SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. ((**FOR 7 MONTHS ISRAEL MUST BURY AND CLEAN THE DEAD BODIES AFTER 7 YRS GOD'S WRATH-TRIBULATION/ JACOB TROUBLE IS OVER))
13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord God.
14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.
17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.
18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.
19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.
20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord God.
21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.
HOW ABOUT GOD AND MAGOG WARS IN REV 20:8, KJV
" And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."
GOG AND MAGOG WARS IN REV 20:8 IS NOT THE SAME WARS IN EZE 38 AND 39 THAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER THE MILLENNIAL KINGDOM WITH JESUS CHRIST IS OVER AND HE WILL LET SATAN AND HIS ANGELS LOOSE AGAIN FOR SHORT TIME TO DECEIVE PEOPLE REV 20:7 "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison," AND THEN ANOTHER GOG AND MAGOG WARS THE ONE IN REV 20:8 WILL HAPPEN.
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GOG AND MAGOG WARS AND PSALM 83 WARS :
SHE RECEIVED THE RAPTURE DREAM FROM THE LORD, THAT THE RAPTURE TIME FRAMES RELATED WITH GOG AND MAGOG WAR IN EZEKIEL 38
The US have been bombing ISIS in Syria not the government. This was against the government of Syria.
The operation, which the Trump administration authorized in retaliation for a chemical attack killing scores of civilians this week, dramatically expands U.S. military involvement in Syria and exposes the United States to heightened risk of direct confrontation with RUSSIA AND IRAN, both backing Assad in his attempt to crush his opposition.
And it's about the "greater Israel" plan.. israelis enemy is Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Russia. Basically wars for ISRAEL.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SYRIA, BECAUSE THE FIGHTING OVER GAS AND OIL, THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST-ISIS AND MANY COUNTRIES INVOLVE IN WARS, THERE BECAUSE OF BASHAR ASSAD'S TYRANT GOVERNMENT, THE REBELS IN SYRIA, ISIS-ISLAMIC TERRORIST GROUP TERRITORIAL, HEZBOLLAH, RUSSIA'S DEFENDING BASHAR ASSAD AND ATTACKING ISIS, TURKEY'S DEFENDING AND SUPPORTING ISIS , TURKEY AND RUSSIA ARE ENEMY OR ATTACK EACH OTHER AND BEHIND THIS, IRAN'S (SHIA MUSLIM) ATTACKING ISIS (SUNNI MUSLIM), EVEN AMERICA AND EUROPE INVOLVE THERE TOO., THE WARS IN SYRIA IS JUST THE BEGINNING FOR GOG AND MAGOG WAR IN EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 OR WORLD WAR 3 , AND THE FULFILLMENT OF ISAIAH 17:1 DAMASCUS RUINOUS HEAPS WHICH IS RELATED WITH GOG AND MAGOG WARS EZE 38 AND 39 THAT CAN TRIGGER THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH , TAKE HEED !
WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PSALM 83 WAR, PSALM 83 WAR IS RELATED DIRECTLY TO ISRAEL, NOT SYRIA.
WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PSALM 83 WAR, PSALM 83 WAR IS RELATED DIRECTLY TO ISRAEL, NOT SYRIA.
The End Of ISIS IS Near As Russia’s Christian Putin Punches Muslim Erdogan By Completely Defeating ISIS And Throwing Islam Out From Palmyra/ Tadmor..
The loss of Palmyra represents one of the biggest setbacks for ISIS since it declared a caliphate in 2014 across large parts of Syria and Iraq.
In the Middle East we call it the “Battle of Tadmor” as Palmyra’s biblical name is Tadmor: “Solomon went to Hamath-zobah and captured it. He built Tadmor in the wilderness and all the storage cities which he had built in Hamath. He also built upper Beth-horon and lower Beth-horon, fortified cities with walls, gates and bars …” (2 Chronicles 8:3-5).
The defeat at Tadmor sends an unmistakable message to Turkey’s intervention into Syria or Iraqi territory. For ISIS to survive it will need a lot of support from its ally and mother Turkey. The weakening of ISIS in Syria, Iraq and also in Libya would mean that it will focus more on attacks in Europe.
Palmyra / Tadmor / Tamar.
I DON'T AGREE WITH WALID SHOEBAT SAYS HERE : THAT THE RAPTURE WATCHERS SHOULD NOT BE READY AT ALL TIME, WHAT I AGREE THE WAR IN SYRIA IS THE FULLFILMENT OF THE PROPHECY EZE 38 GOG AND MAGOG WAR.
And as we said, ISIS is simply the stepping stone, the sacrificial lamb. For Ezekiel 38 to happen and for the end to be at the door, much has to happen first, and unlike the rushing buffs, things take time, "so start unpacking your Rapture Ready suitcases and start learning Christian patience by getting serious studies instead of hype."
THIS PROPHECY JUST LIKE I SAID ALL ALONG , THIS IS THE CONFIRMATION !
THE LORD TOLD ME THE PROPHECY DAMASCUS RUINOUS HEAP RELATES WITH THE RAPTURE TIME FRAME IN 2012, AND EZEKIEL 38 -GOG AND MAGOG WARS RELATED WITH THAT IN 2014 ! DO NOT IGNORE THE WARNING ! WE ALMOST TIME TO THAT DIRECTION, THIS YEAR COULD BE VERY WELL HAPPENED !
THAT MEANS WITHIN 9 DAYS WARNING BEFORE 3 DAYS OF THE LAST ONE , THE DAMASCUS RUINOUS HEAP PROPHECY BEFORE THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH !